Chun Li kikoken

[breast milk🥛]

And spinning bird kick.

How do I use them immediately like I see other players doing? I get that they need to be charged but then you play against people who use them without charging at all, ie- one move, then instantaneous spinning bird kick/kikoken. I tried googling, looking on youtube/reddit but the only video I found on youtube was a guy saying he didn't know how to do it fast. I'm trying to learn more, but man, sometimes this game does such a bad job of explaining things (in this case, not explaining at all as character guides either skip it entirely, or just explain what moves do with no further explanation) thanks for the help

[Lysamus]

Her stance allows her to skip the charge requirement. Maybe they're working the stance into their combos in those videos?

[Raven]

From my understanding through combo trials and playing a bit in world tour, you have to be holding the button to charge it with another input.

So like for kikoken, you can be throwing a regular punch, but holding back at the same time, then just forward+punch to release the kikoken, same thing with spinning bird kick, you could be in the middle of a jump kick, but already holding down and starting the timing for spinning bird kick

edit: this might be what people are referring to when they say "buffering"? Not positive. All I know is that you have to preemptively be holding the button even if you're doing something else, then finish the input.

[Raven]

Originally posted by Lysamus:

Her stance allows her to skip the charge requirement. Maybe they're working the stance into their combos in those videos?

Really?! Nice to know! I don't use Chun Li, but didn't realize that is a thing too

[John Hunter]

Originally posted by breast milk 🥛:

ie- one move, then instantaneous spinning bird kick/kikoken.

I'm not sure how she works in 6 but in 5 you can do the charge while other inputs are happening.

An easy example is a jump in combo. When you are in the air you can hold down & back to charge the move.

Then you can land a jumping attack, then go into a crouching attack while still holding down-back. Then after the crouching attack you can immediately cancel into your special.

[breast milk🥛]

Originally posted by Raven:

From my understanding through combo trials and playing a bit in world tour, you have to be holding the button to charge it with another input.

So like for kikoken, you can be throwing a regular punch, but holding back at the same time, then just forward+punch to release the kikoken, same thing with spinning bird kick, you could be in the middle of a jump kick, but already holding down and starting the timing for spinning bird kick

edit: this might be what people are referring to when they say "buffering"? Not positive. All I know is that you have to preemptively be holding the button even if you're doing something else, then finish the input.

https://youtu.be/d0_XQsJ_c4A?t=17 it's at about 18 seconds, but I see now, how she went into the stance and then it immediately went into spinning bird kick. I didn't know that was a thing- I guess I gotta figure out how to do it, thanks

[ShadowSplit]

Originally posted by breast milk 🥛:

https://youtu.be/d0_XQsJ_c4A?t=17 it's at about 18 seconds, but I see now, how she went into the stance and then it immediately went into spinning bird kick. I didn't know that was a thing- I guess I gotta figure out how to do it, thanks

With stance she went down, then heavy kick, then SPK. As you do quarter circle motion to enter the stance (which he was probably holding down back as soon as he entered stance), heavy kick helped with applying pressure long enough to finish with SBK.
As for Kikoken, you can do regular buttons while charging. It doesn't stop you from doing regular hits. Can be tricky, but worth it.