Bread disappears in first months

[OhhJim]

If I start in December, I have 20 bread. Bandits steal some, now I have 16. The month turns to January, and *Boom* I have zero (0) bread. This happens every time.

Why give me 20 bread at the start of the game if it's going to all disappear?

[Clovis Sangrail]

To give you hope?

Did your people eat it? Do they have other food?

Did you start making any other food sources? Hunting for meat? Berries?

Did the bandits strike again?

Did you know you can select Double Supplies at the start and get 40 loaves of bread? Makes up a little for not having ♥♥♥♥ in the way of berries.

Did someone leave the cake . . er . the bread out in the rain?

[Inigo Montoya]

i mean it does just get eaten by your people, you need to get some kind of food up and running ASAP - hunting or berries is easiest.

Quick drops are sometimes that youve been unlucky with weather - rain can spoil supplies that arent stored, youll get a warning. Youve likely just not built a granary in time and the bread has spoiled in the rain

[OhhJim]

The game starts with 5 families. They eat 1 food each per month. I'm a little surprised people don't know this. 5 families are not supposed to eat 16 bread in one month.

Other food sources have nothing to do with this issue.

I got a notice that 1 bread was damaged by weather. No other weather damage was shown.

[Clovis Sangrail]

I think people do know that and are just trying to cover all the bases for you.

Are you running any mods? Have you ever run any mods on this install?

Are you trying to load a pre-0.7.975 save into a 0.7.975 game?

If none of the above, you should probably just head over to the Bug Reports subforum and report this.

Bug Reports -- https://steamcommunity.com/app/1363080/discussions/2/

[OhhJim]

I've had the game since it came out, and have started a couple dozen towns. I know what I'm doing. I was hoping people could address the issue, which is, "Why is my food disappearing with no notice?", not "Why don't I have food?", or "How can I feed my people?"

After more experimenting, making a Granary immediately, like before the Logging Camp, and putting it right next to the supply pile by the tents, fixes the disappearing food issue. I'll have to make another Granary next to the Market, eventually, but the issue seems to be that the bread is getting damaged with no notice. Early Access, you know.

Thanks for your help.

[Agony_Aunt]

Starting in December is very hard as bad weather can destroy any perishable goods you have in the open until you get your granary built.

I'd only suggest starting in December as a challenge once you are experienced.

Also you can turn off bandits and raiders when you are still learning the game, although bandits are really more helpful than a problem in the long run. Still you can set initial bandit camps to zero and allow them to spawn to stop any early problems with them stealing stuff.

[OhhJim]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Starting in December is very hard as bad weather can destroy any perishable goods you have in the open until you get your granary built.

I'd only suggest starting in December as a challenge once you are experienced.

Also you can turn off bandits and raiders when you are still learning the game, although bandits are really more helpful than a problem in the long run. Still you can set initial bandit camps to zero and allow them to spawn to stop any early problems with them stealing stuff.

I am starting in December as a challenge, since I am experienced. I am not still learning the game. I have no problem with bandits and raiders. I only wondered why my bread was disappearing.

[eechelberger]

The weather destroyed it.

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by OhhJim:

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Starting in December is very hard as bad weather can destroy any perishable goods you have in the open until you get your granary built.

I'd only suggest starting in December as a challenge once you are experienced.

Also you can turn off bandits and raiders when you are still learning the game, although bandits are really more helpful than a problem in the long run. Still you can set initial bandit camps to zero and allow them to spawn to stop any early problems with them stealing stuff.

I am starting in December as a challenge, since I am experienced. I am not still learning the game. I have no problem with bandits and raiders. I only wondered why my bread was disappearing.

Great. Then you should know about weather and the random chance of it being stolen by bandits, as well as family consumption.

So you should be able to identify why the bread is disappearing. Reload an earlier save and watch your messagees and consumption and see where it is going.

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by Haggis MechHaggis:

Originally posted by OhhJim:

making a Granary immediately, like before the Logging Camp,

first thing I do starting any new town to try and avoid the starting food spoiling in the weather.
then a storehouse
then start building the town

Drop a second hitching post first, as it doesn't require any resources and workers will build that while your Ox will start dragging logs to the grannary. The hitching post can be built before the granary has its two logs (and stone?) so you can immediately order your second Ox without delay.

[OhhJim]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Originally posted by OhhJim:

I am starting in December as a challenge, since I am experienced. I am not still learning the game. I have no problem with bandits and raiders. I only wondered why my bread was disappearing.

Great. Then you should know about weather and the random chance of it being stolen by bandits, as well as family consumption.

So you should be able to identify why the bread is disappearing. Reload an earlier save and watch your messagees and consumption and see where it is going.

I'm not saying it shouldn't disappear. I'm saying the game should tell you WHY it's disappearing, but it doesn't. We call this a "bug that should be fixed before final game".

[Agony_Aunt]

Originally posted by OhhJim:

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Great. Then you should know about weather and the random chance of it being stolen by bandits, as well as family consumption.

So you should be able to identify why the bread is disappearing. Reload an earlier save and watch your messagees and consumption and see where it is going.

I'm not saying it shouldn't disappear. I'm saying the game should tell you WHY it's disappearing, but it doesn't. We call this a "bug that should be fixed before final game".

It does tell you stuff is getting damage by weather or stolen by bandits, although more detail on the weather damage could be good.

[OhhJim]

Originally posted by Agony_Aunt:

Originally posted by OhhJim:

I'm not saying it shouldn't disappear. I'm saying the game should tell you WHY it's disappearing, but it doesn't. We call this a "bug that should be fixed before final game".

It does tell you stuff is getting damage by weather or stolen by bandits, although more detail on the weather damage could be good.

Yes, it does. But it doesn't always. I've watched for it, and as I said in my OP, it did, and then it didn't.