How many POPS can you get to before game crashes?

[the dude abides]

I'm running into issues with military encounters being super slow /halting around 2k pops across 7 provinces.

Have only scaled 2 cities out of 7, so think 10k pops is possible, but the game would likely crash well before then.

[Lateralus]

Interesting. What CPU do you have?

[the dude abides]

GeForce RTX 4060
64GB RAM

i9-13900H 2.60 GHz

[CatPerson]

Yeah, your CPU is going to be the largest deciding factor. So "how high" is just going to depend.

Also, it would seem that gamespeed does affect performance, at least currently. So if you're reaching the point where fps drops are happening etc, no more 12x, then no more 4x, then only 1x. heh.

[the dude abides]

Fair, I mean at some level it's always hardware. But like wondering what other people are getting here for when it craps out.

Like, what's the max pops you have ever seen?

[CatPerson]

I haven't gone much past 800 population yet. I usually get "bored" and quit there/restart. Mostly play sandbox - haven't beaten the Ai-lord routine yet, because I also get "bored" long before. Edit: nothing against the game, I'm just one of those that likes the start of a game more than getting to the end, sometimes

But at that amount it hasn't been any performance issue at all. Based on some reddit post I saw I'd guess 1x-only point for my specs might be around 2k-3k. Although I'd guess it would also depend a bit on resolution.

2080ti/i9-9900k/32 ddr4
Game is on a 4k LG OLED but using DLSS/Quality so not native, most settings Ultra, some on High. Stable 60+ at 12x up to that 800ish.

[madpraxis]

the dude abides の投稿を引用：

Fair, I mean at some level it's always hardware. But like wondering what other people are getting here for when it craps out.

Like, what's the max pops you have ever seen?

I had 1k or so in the 'main' village, then every region with at least 500, excepting the two the baron owned. Didn't see any kind of slowdown, but I cap at 60fps anyways... And I have the older brother, yet oddly faster at 2.7Ghz i27000. And only a 3070Ti laptop, and an amazing 16gb of ram, heh.

My only problem with that amount of pops is I'd get a hiccup every now and then from the ram being all taken and shuffled around, on the highest speed.

[CatPerson]

I might try and test higher pop on my rig soon but the slow rate of population growth makes such a longer than typical endeavor, and while I'm fairly patient, sometimes I'm not that patient. lol

The other thing is that I don't know if the game performance is more affected/weighted by *single* region/town's high population (when you are actually within/staring it) or the entire map/total population for all regions. It could also be that total map population would weigh more against battles/combat for some reason, vs. only staring at a busy town center.

That reddit thread was about 3k+ single-town/region size and it was down to 1x.

[madpraxis]

CatPerson の投稿を引用：

I might try and test higher pop on my rig soon but the slow rate of population growth makes such a longer than typical endeavor, and while I'm fairly patient, sometimes I'm not that patient. lol

Telling me, there are some things people seem to be having problems with, that I never have, and so I'll set out to start a new area and try to somehow replicate what they have going wrong. Few hours later, looking at clock, realizing I can't do this cause I have a life, hah.

[CatPerson]

^ yeah ... I spent a few hours on a save and raised my total map-wide population (main and 2 other regions) to about 1200 (vs. 800). At that rate it'll be a few/several days before I could get to 2k+. Especially if I don't focus on a single town, because new regions you have to build up. >.>

That said, still no performance drop for me, but I wasn't expecting one. What I have noticed tho, is that the auto-save takes a bit longer/lags the game for a second, where it didn't really before. Also, the larger the save, the longer loading the save initially takes. Nothing huge, but it's noticeable. Yes I'm on an SSD.

But to the OP, the other thread I saw mentioned having an fps drop at only 300 population. They didn't list their specs tho, only that they were above "recommended." The intel CPU for recommended is actually relatively low (or reasonable, depending on how one looks at it). I don't think it's even made/for sale anymore.