Bandit raid strength

[Caples]

They need to seriously be toned down. There is zero situation ins which I should be one the default "Restoring The Peace" settings and I should have to reliably contend with a 4x18 bandit raid within the first two years. Continuing on from there, you successfully rebuild over the course of a year only to be hit with another 3x18 bandit raid which you cannot possibly hope to fend off. This is absolutely insane.

[Agony_Aunt]

Change your starting options then. Reduce the bandits.

[Caples]

The point is that you should not have to figure out settings for what is supposed to be a "default" experience. The default is also "medium" for raider frequency and the only lower setting is "none" which I do not want.

[Pigeon]

The default setting for restoring the peace you dont get raided until the end of the 2nd year. So you are exaggerating, also, you get 20 spears and 20 shields at 5 home built. So you get your first militia pretty quick. You can easily fend off and even take out bandit camps way before you get raided. Try again.

[VDmitry]

This is not true. The default settings are 18+18 bandits on 3rd year. You get 4x18 on 5th year.

[Agony_Aunt]

Well, its a fair point, but i think after your first game you should have a good enough handle on it to beat the bandits no problem.

In my first year (which was full of mistakes, wasted ages waiting for planks when i didn't have the right things set up for example) and I still had 20 spearmen and 5 retinue by the end of the year. They are plenty to deal with 18 bandits. Dealt with 2 bandit camps and haven't lost a man. Just put your troops on hold the line, spread them out, and ensure they are not tired when they meet the enemy.

Anyway, the dev can take feedback like yours on board and perhaps tone down the default settings. I think the best move would be to make the default mode easy, since the game has a steep learning curve, so a new player is going to need to be eased in, and leave "Restoring the Peace" to be deliberately selected.

The fun and joys of being involved in early access eh?

[Lu5ck]

You can rally 20 units. Use that 20 units to kill bandit camp, send them to treasury. When you got 3 bandit camps on map, spend that money to hire merc, use them to clear bandit camps, disband merc after. Now you got money for both region and treasury. You also got enough influence to claim land.

With money in treasury, when first raid come, you can decide to hire merc or not. You also got option to hire more retinue or get armors for the existing ones. The choice is up to you.

With 10ish militia and retinues, you can fend off first raid. If you don't want your retinue to die, get armors for them.

Once you survive the first bandit which is very easy I would say. You would be focusing on scaling your settlements, with an S, because you can claim another land. The initial settlement will scale really fast since it is on 2nd year. The new settlement will take a year to hit that growth rate.

If you just use x3 speed and not actively building your settlements, you gonna lag behind and that's your problem.

[Caples]

Originally posted by Pigeon:

The default setting for restoring the peace you dont get raided until the end of the 2nd year. So you are exaggerating, also, you get 20 spears and 20 shields at 5 home built. So you get your first militia pretty quick. You can easily fend off and even take out bandit camps way before you get raided. Try again.

In what way is this exaggerating? My first game I saw my first raid of 3x18 bandits for the first raid. There is no situation in which 20 spearmen are going to put up a remotely decent fight.

[Caples]

Originally posted by VDmitry:

This is not true. The default settings are 18+18 bandits on 3rd year. You get 4x18 on 5th year.

Absolutely incorrect. Default settings are 2 years to the first raid. Not to mention I'm seeing 3x18 on the first raid.

[Caples]

Originally posted by Lu5ck:

You can rally 20 units. Use that 20 units to kill bandit camp, send them to treasury. When you got 3 bandit camps on map, spend that money to hire merc, use them to clear bandit camps. Now you got money for both region and treasury. You also got enough influence to claim land.

With money in treasury, when first raid come, you can decide to hire merc or not. You also got option to hire more retinue or get armors for the existing ones. The choice is up to you.

With 10ish militia and retinues, you can fend off first raid. If you don't want your retinue to die, get armors for them.

The problem I'm seeing is that the bandits I'm fighting appear to come from outside the map. Unless I'm tracking them completely wrong, I don't know how I would be expected to know to attack bandit camps the bandits don't appear to originate from. I'll give this a shot. Thank you.

[Exbeer]

dont even need 20 to take out banditcamps, you can easy defeat them with 14 troops, just make sure you are standing in fav positioning , but any troops that is 16-20 easy takes out a 18 bandit raid , i have zero issues dealing with them on standard settings. mind you i set bandit raids to after 3d year.

[VDmitry]

Originally posted by Caples:

Originally posted by VDmitry:

This is not true. The default settings are 18+18 bandits on 3rd year. You get 4x18 on 5th year.

Absolutely incorrect. Default settings are 2 years to the first raid. Not to mention I'm seeing 3x18 on the first raid.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3235845863

On the Edge scenario has 1 year less. But Restoring Peace you have 2 years without any raiders on you.

[jeetrix]

its not that big of an issue but if you're not playing on peaceful the wise thing to do would be to invest some of your energies into defense, making shields and weapons, trade for some scrap money selling of spare base resources , gather people to recruit from and have a retinue, upgrade your houses, build a manor. you can muster up 60 fighting units pretty quickly by the end of second year. which is more than enough to put down anything the game throws at you, i do agree however this is a default setting and it expects you to use all of the game systems to get to this, which is a high bar for a default setting.