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Naraga Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:03am
My militia is not equipping their chainmail armor
Is there something i'm missing or is there a bug? I have chain mail armor but my spear militia is not equipping it (shows 0 when hovering over it)
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Aspect Apr 26, 2024 @ 5:19pm 
got same issue
Jannes73 Apr 26, 2024 @ 5:23pm 
I think only peasants drafted from tier 3 houses will equip chain mail
Granaten-Rainer May 1, 2024 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by Jannes73:
I think only peasants drafted from tier 3 houses will equip chain mail
Yes, this is it.
ESDP May 1, 2024 @ 5:04am 
chain mail is for retinue, not for militia.
Templar May 1, 2024 @ 5:09am 
Like the other dude said, need tier 3 families. Level 1 and 2 can not equip chain mail.
bc02 May 1, 2024 @ 5:18am 
Level 1 burgage residents can only wear their standard clothing, but helmets are available for any level.
Level 2 burgage residents can wear gambesons.
Level 3 burgage can wear chainmail / plate.
Alienpope May 1, 2024 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by ESDP:
chain mail is for retinue, not for militia.
Chain mail is for population living in level 3 houses. Retinue starts with chain mail but can be upgraded to use plate armor.
Alienpope May 1, 2024 @ 5:26am 
Originally posted by bc02:
Level 1 burgage residents can only wear their standard clothing, but helmets are available for any level.
Level 2 burgage residents can wear gambesons.
Level 3 burgage can wear chainmail / plate.
Level 3 can't wear plate, only retinue can wear plate.
dduncan Jan 9 @ 9:49pm 
This seems like a silly rule, the only thing that historically prevented troops wearing chain mail is the inability to afford it. If the city militia equipped them that was no longer an issue.
Originally posted by dduncan:
This seems like a silly rule, the only thing that historically prevented troops wearing chain mail is the inability to afford it. If the city militia equipped them that was no longer an issue.

It is implied that residents of level 1 burgage plots are poor peasants, level 2 residents are simple burghers and level 3 residents are wealthy townsfolk.

Therefore level 1 peasants can, at most, "afford" a helmet.
Level 2 residents can get themselves a light armour like a gambeson.
And level 3 residents are rich enough to "afford" chainmail.

I wonder if level 4 residents will be able to afford plate armour....
Originally posted by dduncan:
This seems like a silly rule, the only thing that historically prevented troops wearing chain mail is the inability to afford it.
That is exactly what this rule is representing.

The game does not track individual wealth of peasants, only abstracted 'regional wealth' of the whole town. That doesn't mean any mail shirts produced in the town or imported are owned but the entire community - the same simply doesn't track who owns what.

And the lord owns none of that. We need to raise wealth taxes to access the proceeds of selling that armour (or any goods). So we obviously cannot freely give away the armour that armoursmith Kunrad crafted to some poor subsistence farmer that cannot afford it. The same way as we cannot order anyone in town to give away their produce for free to another town/region, just because that town is also under our jurisdiction, on our land.

The lord may want to ensure that enough weapons and armour are kept within the region and available, but the militiamen are still expected to buy them themselves, to provide their own weapons and armour (and obviously there's a high incentive for them to get the best they can afford).

The only silly part really lies in how easy it is for a region to massively overproduce everything, including a huge number of chainmail armour pieces. But I'm sure that balance will be tweaked near the end of EA.
Last edited by Chilled Sloth; Jan 10 @ 2:47am
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Date Posted: Apr 26, 2024 @ 9:03am
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