How complete is the game now?

[carloff]

However, is this just a pre-release that is still playable? Or where are we going now? Ar the players here testing the game in the developer's pocket.???

[Cabalius]

Publicado originalmente por Subutai:

Publicado originalmente por armyissue69:

Can someone answer the OP question?

I wont buy the game until its official release. Not buying an early access game. IF that means a year or never out from under early access then, whatever. I'm sure big companies are paying attention to this and will provide similar in future. I like this guy, what trying to achieve but, I personally am just tired of the early access genre.

I still play Caesar 3, total war games from the golden years, Civ4/5, etc, etc. I've got plenty to enjoy.

It's because the actual answer will dissuade a lot of people on the hype train, and reduce returns on the game for the dev.

(The old adage: "if it's not getting fixed, with an obvious solution. Someone is probably making millions because of it.") Cyberpunk was real "close to the chest" too.

This is literally Anno 1800/Dawn of man in a medieval setting. With some cool (not looking deep) aspects.

I suggest a LOT of people sit tight and wait until you can at least get a real review.

I'm telling you right now, this game is not on the level of the hype and if the dev gets a few million on their "make it or break it." they ain't spending it all to further develop the game. They would need investors. That will tell you if this game will go anywhere.

Unless the diplomacy system is on Crusader Kings level (why ARE you able to walk around? You can do this in anno 1800...)

I mean, I see Youtubers mentioning aspects of the game that are in so many other city builders. Like it's a first and manor lords is innovative because of it...

It's hyped because of simply looking like a enjoyable game to play. With a setting that people like, and being cared for by a one-man team [though with additional help on the side lines.] There's also some odd hate going on towards Slavic who, quite frankly, doesn't deserve any of it.

He wants to perfect his product with every update, but is told by majority of the Alpha gang that they find it fine as it is, or they feel the changes aren't needed. Players willingly donated to him via patreon, and it's not even ran by Slavic and instead by specific fans on the earlier stages. He has been gifted a lot of stuff through the years by fans and by larger groups/companies alike. While yes it sounds like I am throwing in Unicorns and rainbows, the dude's pretty damn Humble. For the past 4 years I've spoken to him he's pretty genuine.

It isn't quite his fault either for the major hype, a lot of peeps in the TW community has been saying this will be a TW Killer, when we've been trying to dissuade the community in saying so. It isn't a TW Killer, it's not quite Anno either because ANNO focuses on multiple production chains, which Manor Lords isn't.

[Holo]

Publicado originalmente por Subutai:

Publicado originalmente por Cabalius:

It's hyped because of simply looking like a enjoyable game to play. With a setting that people like, and being cared for by a one-man team [though with additional help on the side lines.] There's also some odd hate going on towards Slavic who, quite frankly, doesn't deserve any of it.

He wants to perfect his product with every update, but is told by majority of the Alpha gang that they find it fine as it is, or they feel the changes aren't needed. Players willingly donated to him via patreon, and it's not even ran by Slavic and instead by specific fans on the earlier stages. He has been gifted a lot of stuff through the years by fans and by larger groups/companies alike. While yes it sounds like I am throwing in Unicorns and rainbows, the dude's pretty damn Humble. For the past 4 years I've spoken to him he's pretty genuine.

It isn't quite his fault either for the major hype, a lot of peeps in the TW community has been saying this will be a TW Killer, when we've been trying to dissuade the community in saying so. It isn't a TW Killer, it's not quite Anno either because ANNO focuses on multiple production chains, which Manor Lords isn't.

Yeah, that is what I fear. too much hype and then the dev has to choose to take the money and run, wait for major investments, or risk their new found wealth on something the may not return. Thus losing all that effort.

It looks enjoyable, however it's clear that the systems needs more depth.

I assume it will still be early access..seeing as it was, then suddenly wasn't on the page.
(Not odd at all, lol.)

Yall just like yapping so much about something you have no idea about, anyways yes its still Early Access.

[Lord of the Exiled Winks]

Publicado originalmente por Holo:

Publicado originalmente por Paddy:

How are you finding it so far especially the combat?

Can't tell ya.

You signed an NDA to play an alpha version of the game?

[Holo]

Publicado originalmente por Lord of the Exiled Winks:

Publicado originalmente por Holo:

Can't tell ya.

You signed an NDA to play an alpha version of the game?

Correct.

[Lord of the Exiled Winks]

Publicado originalmente por Subutai:

Publicado originalmente por Cabalius:

It's hyped because of simply looking like a enjoyable game to play. With a setting that people like, and being cared for by a one-man team [though with additional help on the side lines.] There's also some odd hate going on towards Slavic who, quite frankly, doesn't deserve any of it.

He wants to perfect his product with every update, but is told by majority of the Alpha gang that they find it fine as it is, or they feel the changes aren't needed. Players willingly donated to him via patreon, and it's not even ran by Slavic and instead by specific fans on the earlier stages. He has been gifted a lot of stuff through the years by fans and by larger groups/companies alike. While yes it sounds like I am throwing in Unicorns and rainbows, the dude's pretty damn Humble. For the past 4 years I've spoken to him he's pretty genuine.

It isn't quite his fault either for the major hype, a lot of peeps in the TW community has been saying this will be a TW Killer, when we've been trying to dissuade the community in saying so. It isn't a TW Killer, it's not quite Anno either because ANNO focuses on multiple production chains, which Manor Lords isn't.

Yeah, that is what I fear. too much hype and then the dev has to choose to take the money and run, wait for major investments, or risk their new found wealth on something the may not return. Thus losing all that effort.

It looks enjoyable, however it's clear that the systems needs more depth.

I assume it will still be early access..seeing as it was, then suddenly wasn't on the page.
(Not odd at all, lol.)

You don't understand how these industries work. You don't "get investors" with no principal that they can view and no history of success to ride on, and you definitely don't start looking for investors in the middle of a project. In this instance if Slavic wanted investors to create more games he would absolutely need this game to have a successful launch and successfully make it out of early access.

Love it or hate it EA is the best way to support this game and help the developer continue developing software. Especially considering that Slavic has been laboring (and not earning money) on this project for the better part of 5 years maybe longer. In order for this thing to be practical of course there needs to be a significant return.

All this being said, Slavic has proven to be a generally stand up person and more than trustworthy. As well, Hooded Horse have an excellent reputation and a very good line up of great indie games.

So I just find this drastic level of concern from naysayers unfounded and quite silly. Possibly paid bots attempting to Neg bomb the game? Perhaps.

[Lord of the Exiled Winks]

Publicado originalmente por Holo:

Publicado originalmente por Lord of the Exiled Winks:

You signed an NDA to play an alpha version of the game?

Correct.

Interesting did that come from Slavic or HH?

[JayKay1910]

Buy Cities Skyline 2 - loooooooooooooooooool

[Gubernaut]

Can anyone say about the map will it be random generated or like pre-made style?

[Lebloncprocess]

Publicado originalmente por Gubernaut:

Can anyone say about the map will it be random generated or like pre-made style?

Pre made but with randomly generated water veins so every playthrough will be a lil diff, you also don't start in the same region every game

[I'm Ryan]

Publicado originalmente por carloff:

However, is this just a pre-release that is still playable? Or where are we going now? Ar the players here testing the game in the developer's pocket.???

So anyways to answer the OP question would be - the dev delayed the game for about 5 months for a good reason. He cares and this is just the begging. See how Ready or Not - when they left early access the price almost 2x

[AndreD]

Publicado originalmente por BRE Richart:

the game is not evens out yet and here are already people looking for reasons to complain,like just keep quite already, you dont like it why you even wishlist it, some of us just wish we could alpha test it, but we have to be patient for release, do u know what struggle it has been waiting for years for a release date, then finally we get a short term demo, and then wait again for a release date, then again its gets pushed, now its 2 weeks and every day feels like an eternity. dont ruin it for the rest thats looking forward to it

Skull & Bones was in development for a few yrs from Ubisoft. Look how well that game turned out for them.

[Ruin]

Publicado originalmente por AndreD:

Publicado originalmente por BRE Richart:

the game is not evens out yet and here are already people looking for reasons to complain,like just keep quite already, you dont like it why you even wishlist it, some of us just wish we could alpha test it, but we have to be patient for release, do u know what struggle it has been waiting for years for a release date, then finally we get a short term demo, and then wait again for a release date, then again its gets pushed, now its 2 weeks and every day feels like an eternity. dont ruin it for the rest thats looking forward to it

Skull & Bones was in development for a few yrs from Ubisoft. Look how well that game turned out for them.

So every game, from every developer, moving forward is going to be bad? How is Skull and Bones even relevant?

[Big Poppa]

I'm just glad we have a strategy game coming from someone other than paradox. Going to pick it up if reviews are not horrid.

[PhoenixOmen]

Publicado originalmente por Ruin:

- overly entitled individuals making passive-aggressive threats towards (especially indie) developers, as if it's actually gonna change anything...

Is not entitlement when a person pays to get a product, is entitlement when the product is free.

You may think it does not change anything, but current events (with other games) proves you wrong. Gamers vote with wallet.

[PhoenixOmen]

Publicado originalmente por Úlfheðinn:

How about you calm down lol... this is literally an indie game mostly created by ONE guy. Oh no its releasing in EA so bad.

I can get that notion with huge AAA companies but damn dude this isnt such a title.

It all comes down to price tag. Asking for AAA price and treat it as "indie" gives any gamer the right to criticism (positive or negative) and skepticism