Why are there no scopes?

[Lqdtech]

I do not understand why there are no scopes in the game. The enemy has a sniper with a scope and laser but our vets are iron sights. There is no zoom capability or enemy targeting (apart from a few second perk activation that sucks). This is WH40k even bosses have personal shield bubbles they can use. Give me a sniper rifle for gods sake and a side gun and melee as well. I can hold a sniper rifle, M4, 9mm and a chain saw if I really needed to.

If we are going to have waves of mobs lets get down and dirty and light this place up.

[Shotgun Solutions]

Originally posted by Lqdtech:

I do not understand why there are no scopes in the game. The enemy has a sniper with a scope and laser but our vets are iron sights. There is no zoom capability or enemy targeting (apart from a few second perk activation that sucks). This is WH40k even bosses have personal shield bubbles they can use. Give me a sniper rifle for gods sake and a side gun and melee as well. I can hold a sniper rifle, M4, 9mm and a chain saw if I really needed to.

If we are going to have waves of mobs lets get down and dirty and light this place up.

Let the Emperor guide your shots brother. You're not saying you lack faith...are you?

[randir14]

There's a mod that lets you customize weapons. I tried a scope and all it did was make the game harder to play since it takes up your whole screen as you're being swarmed and shot at.

[Jakal, Lady kisser]

mechanics of the game have problems with it. honestly even the amount of zoom we get with guns as it is is visibly pushing how they can handle the way the game processes the player's position if you know what to look for.

also scoping for hordes of zombies is terrible practice, so i don't think you should be allowed to have them anyways.

[sumdumbum]

According to fatshark that would make the game too much like CoD.

[coolman552]

Originally posted by randir14:

There's a mod that lets you customize weapons. I tried a scope and all it did was make the game harder to play since it takes up your whole screen as you're being swarmed and shot at.

only pip scopes can work in this game tbh

[m99noble]

i dunno, makes my slug shotty a bolt action rifle and the smallest scope is pretty quick to sight with. v easy to hit heads. on t5 histg there are lots and lots of targets you need to deal with v quickly and its worse if you play veteran left tree key stone cuz then you only have 3 seconds to chain your kills to keep your stacks. we make it work though.

[Lqdtech]

How do you distinguish between targets with a rapid fire las gun? When I sight it and fire the flash of the laser and the darkness of the surrounding area (and target) I tend to lose them after the first couple of hits. I like the autocannons but the ammo pool is so damn small for them.. DRUM CLIP devs

[Hagalazꑭ]

Nexus Mods to the rescue!

[EarthN]

Who needs scopes ?! Iron sights are just fine considering the ranges on the maps, and do not decrease ur field of view like a scope would. So no, not needed, other than for cool looks maybe....

[CLG]

there's a weapon customization mod that lets you put the red dots and other optics on any gun. any kind of optic is far superior just iron sights. also the new scopes they added are pretty bad because of how restrictive they are, the zoom is also too much for most encounters. they are most likely going to add a heavy lasgun to give vet a real sniper rifle, i just hope they let you toggle the zoom levels because it's way too restrictive. the sniper scopes in the game are very WIP so they will probably get better over time.

[luZk]

To encourage you to do your 360 headshots, no scoped.

[Bovril Brigadier]

Whats dumb is that the standard lasgun has a scope inbuilt that devs decided to remove in favour of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ reflex sight.

[ArterialSpray1066]

Originally posted by Lqdtech:

How do you distinguish between targets with a rapid fire las gun? When I sight it and fire the flash of the laser and the darkness of the surrounding area (and target) I tend to lose them after the first couple of hits. I like the autocannons but the ammo pool is so damn small for them.. DRUM CLIP devs

For the recon-las:
Just because it's full auto doesn't mean you have to hold it down till it runs dry.
Little taps for mid-long range shooting.
Short controlled bursts for short-mid.
...
And just hold the trigger down till the noise stops when you're overwhelmed at point blank. lol.

If youre running out a lot try the brown slower ROF variant. Especially one with a high ammo cap. It hits harder and slower. You should be able to finish lower difficulty runs without needing to pick up ammo.

[Bongoboy]

Originally posted by Lqdtech:

I can hold a sniper rifle, M4, 9mm and a chain saw if I really needed to.

I think Fatshark never seen the Miniatures of GamesWorkshop, that all have a pistol in a holster or a rifle with a shoulder-strap hanging at ones back.

[Lqdtech]

Originally posted by ArterialSpray1066:

Originally posted by Lqdtech:

How do you distinguish between targets with a rapid fire las gun? When I sight it and fire the flash of the laser and the darkness of the surrounding area (and target) I tend to lose them after the first couple of hits. I like the autocannons but the ammo pool is so damn small for them.. DRUM CLIP devs

For the recon-las:
Just because it's full auto doesn't mean you have to hold it down till it runs dry.
Little taps for mid-long range shooting.
Short controlled bursts for short-mid.
...
And just hold the trigger down till the noise stops when you're overwhelmed at point blank. lol.

If youre running out a lot try the brown slower ROF variant. Especially one with a high ammo cap. It hits harder and slower. You should be able to finish lower difficulty runs without needing to pick up ammo.

You make good points on that.