Zero Hour
Dwasy Feb 20, 2023 @ 12:26pm
GET A NEW ANTICHEAT
this anti cheat is trash its not even working. many people cheats
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harryhaller927 Feb 21, 2023 @ 10:32am 
+1
blitz Feb 21, 2023 @ 4:30pm 
lol i don't think so. Denuvo runs at kernel 0 and I failed to find any cheats for this game
Dwasy Feb 22, 2023 @ 2:51am 
Originally posted by flee:
lol i don't think so. Denuvo runs at kernel 0 and I failed to find any cheats for this game
really? one seacrh online and i will find cheats. i have a friend that has tried it also and it works
Krav Magal Feb 26, 2023 @ 10:58pm 
Originally posted by flee:
lol i don't think so. Denuvo runs at kernel 0 and I failed to find any cheats for this game

This is denuvo anti-cheat, not the anti-tamper. No kernel 0 access afaik
blitz Mar 3, 2023 @ 9:22pm 
Originally posted by Krav Magal:
Originally posted by flee:
lol i don't think so. Denuvo runs at kernel 0 and I failed to find any cheats for this game

This is denuvo anti-cheat, not the anti-tamper. No kernel 0 access afaik
Are you dumb? Please do your research. And yes I am serious no cheats available atm. Denuvo is one of the best anti cheats in the market, if you knew anything about anti cheat measures you would be worth the time to explain this to. All you people cry about Denuvo and its ring0 access but fail to realize almost all major AC's run at this level. Denuvo has been doing it alot longer. Hence why you cannot find any cheat developers that specialize in reverse engineering its complex software. So stfu and enjoy a cheat free experience.
Last edited by blitz; Mar 3, 2023 @ 9:25pm
Dirty Kosby Mar 5, 2023 @ 7:26am 
Originally posted by Krav Magal:
Originally posted by flee:
lol i don't think so. Denuvo runs at kernel 0 and I failed to find any cheats for this game

This is Denuvo anti-cheat, not the anti-tamper. No kernel 0 access afaik

You have it backwards. The Denuvo DRM is built into the executable and doesn't have (or need) kernel access. Denuvo Anti-Cheat, however, does. This is the main complaint about it, though many other anti-cheats have kernel access, as well. Valorant, PUBG and Fortnite, to name a few popular games, all have anti-cheat with kernel access, yet for some reason only Denuvo gets singled out and the others are largely ignored. It's really unavoidable if you want a decent anti-cheat, but I still don't want them on my PC. As I mentioned before, Denuvo DRM is built into the executable. It obfuscates the game's code when it's being compiled. While it may impact performance slightly at times, it doesn't have kernel access and isn't quite as bad (as long as the game doesn't also have their anti-cheat with it).

Here is a post on the Irdeto, the company that made Denuvo, blog trying to explain why they needed kernel access if you need confirmation. [blog.irdeto.com]
blitz Mar 7, 2023 @ 12:18am 
Originally posted by Dirty Kosby:
Originally posted by Krav Magal:

This is Denuvo anti-cheat, not the anti-tamper. No kernel 0 access afaik

You have it backwards. The Denuvo DRM is built into the executable and doesn't have (or need) kernel access. Denuvo Anti-Cheat, however, does. This is the main complaint about it, though many other anti-cheats have kernel access, as well. Valorant, PUBG and Fortnite, to name a few popular games, all have anti-cheat with kernel access, yet for some reason only Denuvo gets singled out and the others are largely ignored. [/url]

That's probably because people are so clueless as to what is actually running on their computers with these anti cheats. They hear one person crying about it so they all jump aboard and ride that whine train for no reason.
Dirty Kosby Mar 7, 2023 @ 12:57am 
Originally posted by flee:
That's probably because people are so clueless as to what is actually running on their computers with these anti cheats. They hear one person crying about it so they all jump aboard and ride that whine train for no reason.

You're definitely onto something there. I've definitely come across some complaints about Vanguard, Valorant's anti-cheat, but nowhere near as many. I've also witnessed people (both online and in person) state that they will never install a game with Denuvo and go on about how bad it is, only to find out they were avid Valorant or Rainbow Six: Siege players (and yes, for those who aren't aware, BattleEye also runs at the kernel level). It has taken EA's place in recent years/months as being the go-to company or product to hate on for guaranteed likes/upvotes/whatever.
While Denuvo gets the uproar and bad reputation, a surprising number of the most popular games sneak by unscathed while doing the exact same thing with their own proprietary anti-cheats. In a way Denuvo is jumping on the figurative grenade to shield their fellow game devs from the blast. It wasn't exactly a voluntarily sacrifice, but they seem to be taking the shrapnel in stride.

For anyone curious who happens to be reading this, BattleEye and Easy Anti-Cheat are two of the most well-known and recognizable names in anti-cheat that, just like Denuvo, have kernel access. PUBG started using its own anti-cheat, called ZAKYNTHOS, after going free-to-play, which also does. EA also announced their own kernel-level anti-cheat late last year and started using it with FIFA '23. It's a near-endless list of multiplayer games, so I'll just stop there.
blitz Mar 8, 2023 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by Dirty Kosby:
Originally posted by flee:
That's probably because people are so clueless as to what is actually running on their computers with these anti cheats. They hear one person crying about it so they all jump aboard and ride that whine train for no reason.

You're definitely onto something there. I've definitely come across some complaints about Vanguard, Valorant's anti-cheat, but nowhere near as many. I've also witnessed people (both online and in person) state that they will never install a game with Denuvo and go on about how bad it is, only to find out they were avid Valorant or Rainbow Six: Siege players (and yes, for those who aren't aware, BattleEye also runs at the kernel level). It has taken EA's place in recent years/months as being the go-to company or product to hate on for guaranteed likes/upvotes/whatever.
While Denuvo gets the uproar and bad reputation, a surprising number of the most popular games sneak by unscathed while doing the exact same thing with their own proprietary anti-cheats. In a way Denuvo is jumping on the figurative grenade to shield their fellow game devs from the blast. It wasn't exactly a voluntarily sacrifice, but they seem to be taking the shrapnel in stride.

For anyone curious who happens to be reading this, BattleEye and Easy Anti-Cheat are two of the most well-known and recognizable names in anti-cheat that, just like Denuvo, have kernel access. PUBG started using its own anti-cheat, called ZAKYNTHOS, after going free-to-play, which also does. EA also announced their own kernel-level anti-cheat late last year and started using it with FIFA '23. It's a near-endless list of multiplayer games, so I'll just stop there.
This person is 100% accurate, kudos to you my friend for displaying the correct information.
lukaself Mar 8, 2023 @ 5:56am 
Denuvo anti-cheat... doesn't stop cheats. It detects irregularities and reports them to the developers which then have to check and make a decision. Implementing DAC isn't enough, developers have to invest heavily into a team of specialists to analyze the data and manually ban confirmed cheaters. Which means, you won't see any improvements if the developer doesn't have the means to exploit the feedback... means which, with less than 200 concurrent players, this company is highly unlikely to have at their disposal.

Moreover, Denuvo gets singled-out because they're a notoriously unreliable company using made-up statistics and phony awards to sell their products. The idea a handful of gamers/cheaters could stop bickering long enough to conspire against a global company is nothing short of laughable. Their bad reputation is entirely self-inflicted.
Phycorax Mar 15, 2023 @ 6:21am 
Its too late. They are stubborn to the change now.
A lot of problems couldve been solved community wise if they never added denuvo in the first place.
It doesnt work, and the general stigma against it kicked off players off the game.
Swistie Mar 29, 2023 @ 9:13am 
Just typing to keep the post in the discussion and i agree
Vain Mar 29, 2023 @ 7:23pm 
Cholesterol Apr 5, 2023 @ 3:10pm 
for the sake of the game, if the devs payed attention adding denuvo killed the game overnight with that update.
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Date Posted: Feb 20, 2023 @ 12:26pm
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