Mods for a better protagonist when?

[Syn]

Apparently Square Enix have decided all Final Fantasy games must be headed up by dudebros.
Sad.

[IceWolf]

Escrito originalmente por Syn:

Apparently Square Enix have decided all Final Fantasy games must be headed up by dudebros.
Sad.

Yeah here's how you do it.
* Consume Less Soy
* Hit the gym 3x a week to start focusing on deadlifts, bench , squats, and shoulder press all sets of solid compound movements for beginners that boast good results and consistant fat burning.
* Listen to some Butt Rock
* Kill Chaos

It's that easy.

[Zero McDol]

Escrito originalmente por Xialoh:

Escrito originalmente por Zero McDol:

I believe that the point is that some people want to make their own protaginist. Square has yet to realize this, beyond their mmo-style games or are more concerned about their own created characters. It is what it is of course, but yea - the ability to create a character is actual the gripe and has been for a very long time.

Not that I care, mind you. I generally stick with games with character creation, but do play some games with premade characters, when I feel like it.

Feel like you're talking about a very tiny group of people here. I can't even think of a single JRPG I've played or seen that allows you to create your own character outside of MMOs, which aren't exactly JRPGs.

The most popular story driven games in general have..."premade characters", as you put it. Character creation for games like these makes the script awkward and raises the budget costs. It also kills off the ability to do basic things like having a detailed past for the character that can be revealed over time...but I suppose that's why someone invented amnesia. We can always do that some more.

Probably yea.

I guess that it really depends on just how big that that market is. The best way for them to find out is easy enough; make a FF game with a player focused and creatable protagonist, and see just how well that it sells. Simplicity itself.

[Calamari]

Escrito originalmente por Miro Fox:

Escrito originalmente por Weird Mona:

Go play something else. Steam literally has a tag for "fEmAlE pRoTaGoNiSt" for you to search with.

A dudebro doesn't mean "Male"

it means like "Alpha, Himbo's"

the last time we got a twink was 10.

Literally called "dudebro" which is used for males. And i don't see why using a dudebro for a protagonist is a bad thing. I like different minds too but anytime there is a masculine male you get these weirdos crying about it.

And yes, I like playing females in games too. My ffxiv character is a female Lalafell. And anything story driven and single player I don't mind a character thats not customizable. This complaint like the OP is doing is stale and old.

[Miro Fox]

Escrito originalmente por Weird Mona:

Escrito originalmente por Miro Fox:

A dudebro doesn't mean "Male"

it means like "Alpha, Himbo's"

the last time we got a twink was 10.

Literally called "dudebro" which is used for males. And i don't see why using a dudebro for a protagonist is a bad thing. I like different minds too but anytime there is a masculine male you get these weirdos crying about it.

And yes, I like playing females in games too. My ffxiv character is a female Lalafell. And anything story driven and single player I don't mind a character thats not customizable. This complaint like the OP is doing is stale and old.

Himbos are boring.

Gimme da twinks. Or some ambiguous mcd

[Black Captain]

Escrito originalmente por Sixtyfivekills:

You can't get better than Jack. He should be the main protag of every entry.

CHAOS!

[GrugIsRock]

Escrito originalmente por Miro Fox:

Escrito originalmente por Weird Mona:

Literally called "dudebro" which is used for males. And i don't see why using a dudebro for a protagonist is a bad thing. I like different minds too but anytime there is a masculine male you get these weirdos crying about it.

And yes, I like playing females in games too. My ffxiv character is a female Lalafell. And anything story driven and single player I don't mind a character thats not customizable. This complaint like the OP is doing is stale and old.

Himbos are boring.

Gimme da twinks. Or some ambiguous mcd

you will never be a real animal.

[Miro Fox]

Escrito originalmente por GrugIsRock:

Escrito originalmente por Miro Fox:

Himbos are boring.

Gimme da twinks. Or some ambiguous mcd

you will never be a real animal.

Humans are animals, go back to school.

[William Shakesman]

Escrito originalmente por Syn:

Apparently Square Enix have decided all Final Fantasy games must be headed up by dudebros.
Sad.

Why are you racist against dudebros? They're cool

[Night]

*jack walks into the topic*

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

*walks out like an alpha*

[Aria Athena]

Escrito originalmente por Night:

*jack walks into the topic*

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

*walks out like an alpha*

There is no way he would exibit so much emotion, he would just let out an anime grunt as usual.

[Black Captain]

Escrito originalmente por William Shakesman:

Escrito originalmente por Syn:

Apparently Square Enix have decided all Final Fantasy games must be headed up by dudebros.
Sad.

Why are you racist against dudebros? They're cool

Sexist, mai dood.

[JtDarth]

Escrito originalmente por Night:

*jack walks into the topic*

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

*walks out like an alpha*

You are missing the aggressive butt rock blasting from his earbuds as he walks away.

[Balm]

FFXIV sounds like more your speed 'ma'am'

[TalesOtaku]

Escrito originalmente por MJAndre:

You're not playing a protagonist. You're playing a villain.

Has no one told you that a protagonist doesn't mean "good guy"? 🤔

[JtDarth]

Escrito originalmente por TalesOtaku:

Escrito originalmente por MJAndre:

You're not playing a protagonist. You're playing a villain.

Has no one told you that a protagonist doesn't mean "good guy"? 🤔

To be fair, the protagonist is typically the 'hero' of the story, and the implications of that have changed a LOT since the original origin of the word. To quote from Harry Potter (blegh):
OIlivander: After all, He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named did great things. Terrible, yes, but great.

The old meaning of hero had more to do with the scale of their accomplishments than it did any assertion of morality. That is VERY visible if you go look at some of the Greek epics, or even Norse mythologies. Jason and Heracles, for example, were both selfish, egotistical jerks who would gladly drag others into their schemes solely to throw them under the bus the moment it was convenient.


On another note, for this game in particular, it's less that Jack's the 'villain' and more that we are observing what lead him to that state. Right up until the last missions of the game, Jack is still ostensibly 'the good guy'.

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