Minor civilizations are too docile in 2.2

[Supply Side Jesus]

In the release version they would build star bases, fleets and go after pirates. In 2.2 they just sit there.

Please improve them to:

a. Build fleets to defend their planet so they are at least have a chance to fight off invasions into mid-game.
b. Have them build trade ships and trade with other races so there is a reason to keep them around beside meager tribute.
c. Have them build space stations near their planet.
d. Have them provide unique bonuses (e.g., like Civ and city states) so there is a reason to keep them around beside meager tribute.

[Airmaster]

A. They are not supposed to give players any challenge to counter invasion. They don't have the ability to research higher technology to build shipyards.
See also C.

B. You are supposed to send trade ships to them and they pay you tributes.

C. Because they are Minor Races they do not have nor can they research high technology to build starbases or ships to protect themselves.

D. They are a bonus in the fact that you can economically trade with them and receive tributes.

What you are asking for changes their purpose and puts them on the same level as major races. They are fodder and that's why they're optional as NPCs.

I'm going to disagree with your proposal because this is not what they are intended for due to them being optional NPCs.

If you would like races that are more challenging I suggest you start adding more custom races made by you or others that have the same abilities as the major races.

[Illauna]

They are minor civs they basically have barely achieved space flight. They are not going to put up a fight.

[rdouglass1]

I have recently had some Colony Ships passing a couple of these Minor Races, and they Reached Out and Attacked them. (Declared War on Me)

[Jambie Lionheart]

If they could p[ut up a significant fight they'd be fully fledged factions.

It would be cool though if they colonized their own star system fully and had full control over the hexes of that star system. Space empires franchise is the only one that made minor races a fight worth wanting. Currently they're just an extra trade partner or conquest target.

[Supply Side Jesus]

Imagine if Earth was minor civilization, we absolutely would attempt to respond to the certain knowledge of more advanced civilizations. This would include all-hands-on-deck effort to colonize our own star system and to build space ships with tech we do have. It would also include attempts to trade, steal, or come up with our own tech.

[scragg]

I think it more likely we'd fight among ourselves and accomplish nothing. Unless, of course, we had the help of a sassy AI named like Skippy the Magnificent.

[elhran]

If I remember correctly, minor civs were more interactive in Galciv 2. I used to give them ships when they were attacked by the Drengs or another hostile civ. I even sent my own fleets to help in the fight. I didn't do that for all minors...just a couple that I would sort of "adopt" as my special projects. IF...I remember correctly....

[Supply Side Jesus]

I think Civ does city-states well, they have special bonuses and they do have limited self-sufficiency. in developing and defending. Only they don't expand.

That is what mino civs should be modeled on.

[Jambie Lionheart]

Originally posted by elhran:

If I remember correctly, minor civs were more interactive in Galciv 2. I used to give them ships when they were attacked by the Drengs or another hostile civ. I even sent my own fleets to help in the fight. I didn't do that for all minors...just a couple that I would sort of "adopt" as my special projects. IF...I remember correctly....

Oh yeah, you're right. They were kinda fun in that one. You could support one against a major faction and give the main faction grief >: ]