Leader generation...

[Trayen]

The leader generation is complete crap. I may have generated a thousand of leaders and do I get a leader with my Ideology of Pacifism? Nope. Well maybe 5 or 6. That is a half of a percent chance.

Now do I get other Ideologies. You bet your ass I do. I upwards to the tune of 3 to 4 percent chance. I am not even talking about get leaders with crap traits.

Anyway to take the leadership crap out of the game??? Why would I put a garbage leader in a position. Stardock lets see you put a criminal or a paranoid psychopath in as your CFO. How about someone that has ties to Electronic Arts?

Please make it so you get leaders more inline with your traits. A few bad ones here or there that is okay. But all of them. That is not acceptable.

[SLG]

I like the way it is now. I really do not see many leaders in my games that will affect the ideologies. I have seen maybe about 10 in all my games.

[Illauna]

You're not required to recruit leaders that don't match your values. You're basically interviewing them. You can even execute, helpful with the ones that hurt your entire empire, or put the ones you don't want into factions.

[Jambie Lionheart]

To be fair, pacifism has always been one of the least popular.

[Illauna]

I use Pacifism all the time. It's the best warmonger tree :D

[ghost88]

Originally posted by Illauna:

I use Pacifism all the time. It's the best warmonger tree :D

Gets rid of crime in a hurry also.

[Supply Side Jesus]

I agree with OP. Ideologies are not at all integrated with your leaders or citizens. It is rare to see citizens and leaders matching you civilization's ideology. This is unrealistic situation for anything but Totalitarianism.

[Illauna]

Unrealistic?

It's very realistic. Like I said your basically interviewing the leaders. If you want to surround yourself with people of the same idealogy then you want to hire those people but it also means your options are more limited.

[Supply Side Jesus]

Ideology is not "the same opinions". It is fundamental outlook on how things going to work. It is like appointing Reagan to be in charge of USSR because his Social stat was very high. Would not be possible due to misalignment of ideologies.

[Alejandro]

I think unless your ideology is totalitarianism or maybe collectivism, that it's totally normal that half of your people have a different ideology than your leader. After all you literally are in control of multiple planets where tons of people live.

And it's also not meant to be super serious either, I find it funny how some potential leader believes that "ancient aliens are among us" and stuff like that, it makes the game more fun.

[Trayen]

Originally posted by Alejandro:

I think unless your ideology is totalitarianism or maybe collectivism, that it's totally normal that half of your people have a different ideology than your leader. After all you literally are in control of multiple planets where tons of people live.

And it's also not meant to be super serious either, I find it funny how some potential leader believes that "ancient aliens are among us" and stuff like that, it makes the game more fun.

That maybe true for your citizens, but for your cabinet members no. Are you going to put a Totalitarianism leader in as your Defense minister. As a pacifist NO. War and fighting is the last resort.

I have no problem about the other non-ideology traits, they had flavor to the leader. It is the ideology traits. If they are not going to be used properly then they should remove them altogether.

[Illauna]

The traits have other effects. Your treating this like the game requires you to place those people in those positions which it doesn't.

I'm curious where you people get your history in all countries you never have 100% buy in for the ideology. Leaders will generally hire people with like minded view points which is something you can totally do. If you must have everyone in your ideology match the same then you need to limit your hiring and use the EO to recruit leaders.

[Trayen]

And I do limit my hiring. I have gone entire games where I have hired only leaders with no traits or just beneficial traits. I just wish I could see more leaders generated with my ideology.

It is a fun game just disappointing at times.

[ghost88]

Originally posted by Trayen:

And I do limit my hiring. I have gone entire games where I have hired only leaders with no traits or just beneficial traits. I just wish I could see more leaders generated with my ideology.

It is a fun game just disappointing at times.

What a bunch of bland unexciting games you must play.
Random events, random attributes on leaders are in the game so you have challenges.
Seems a sad way to play.

[Supply Side Jesus]

Originally posted by ghost88:

What a bunch of bland unexciting games you must play.
Random events, random attributes on leaders are in the game so you have challenges.
Seems a sad way to play.

Such a bad faith argument. If you read this thread, complaint is that what is randomly generated makes not sense. It has nothing to do with challenge.

If your leader is a stack of pancakes, objecting to it being absurd is just that.

[Airmaster]

Originally posted by Supply Side Jesus:

Originally posted by ghost88:

What a bunch of bland unexciting games you must play.
Random events, random attributes on leaders are in the game so you have challenges.
Seems a sad way to play.

Such a bad faith argument. If you read this thread, complaint is that what is randomly generated makes not sense. It has nothing to do with challenge.

If your leader is a stack of pancakes, objecting to it being absurd is just that.

And yet if there was no random generation with each new game would be playing with the exact same leaders with the exact same idealologies under the same game settings and events as your previous game. Bland, boring, unexciting and no challenge because you already know what to expect. With random generation you are challenged to figure out NEW things because you never know what you're going to get. That's why it's called a challenge.

Random generation provides there is never the same game over and over. After all the games main motto is ," never the same game twice".