Mission: Bank

[vegan cookies]

I've learnt how to do this mission without alerting anyone to any real suspicion. No knock-outs. Nothing but the computers hacked. And I know I can hack the painting safe to get the gold bar, and I can turn the sprinklers on, and I can disable all of the CCTV security footage.

The questions I have are:
1) Is the code for the safe with the gold bar anywhere to be found?
2) Is there an advantage to turning on the sprinkler system in the vault?
3) Is there any real advantage to turning off the cameras given how few there are, and that they always seem to be easy to temp disable with my pistol?

[Ghidrah1]

Looks like I'll be playing CT again once I complete DA just so I can locate the 2nd entrance, do you still disable the PA system outside the building?

[vegan cookies]

Originally posted by Ghidrah1:

Looks like I'll be playing CT again once I complete DA just so I can locate the 2nd entrance, do you still disable the PA system outside the building?

I think they made 2 massive errors with the Korean missions.
The first is the same mistake they always make, which is people in their home countries speaking English, usually with an unbelievably fake accent. I never know if I should find it hilariously stupid, racist, or both?

The second is, in that mission, you absolutely should have been able instead to change the message to be an anti-North Korean message. A really hammed up bit of voice acting would have been beautiful from one of the analysts voices.

[RoughUlysses]

Originally posted by Ghidrah1:

Looks like I'll be playing CT again once I complete DA just so I can locate the 2nd entrance, do you still disable the PA system outside the building?

You can snipe the speaker out using pistol without climbing up the roof.

[Noxbi 🌈]

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

The first is the same mistake they always make, which is people in their home countries speaking English, usually with an unbelievably fake accent.

There's an option to have the characters speak their native language. I'd recommend turning that on to you, immersion level goes to the roof.

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

I never know if I should find it hilariously stupid, racist, or both?

I think it's neither. It's a dub for English speaking players that do not care for immersion or accuracy. Yet, some of them often go to the forums and complain that their English version of the game has English in it.

That's actually freaking funny to me because there seems to be no consensus to what you said about the English voices. I can't help but cringe any time someone brings it up. Because, you know, in Pandora Tomorrow, the actors read the lines in their own voices (mostly Canadian but some American) and it seems that most of people think this is actually racist to have characters speak plain english without accents.

[vegan cookies]

Originally posted by Noxbi 🌈:

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

The first is the same mistake they always make, which is people in their home countries speaking English, usually with an unbelievably fake accent.

There's an option to have the characters speak their native language. I'd recommend turning that on to you, immersion level goes to the roof.

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

I never know if I should find it hilariously stupid, racist, or both?

I think it's neither. It's a dub for English speaking players that do not care for immersion or accuracy. Yet, some of them often go to the forums and complain that their English version of the game has English in it.

That's actually freaking funny to me because there seems to be no consensus to what you said about the English voices. I can't help but cringe any time someone brings it up. Because, you know, in Pandora Tomorrow, the actors read the lines in their own voices (mostly Canadian but some American) and it seems that most of people think this is actually racist to have characters speak plain english without accents.

I honestly can't remember pandora tomorrow, it's been too many years, but if you're going to have say, chinese soldiers, it surely makes most sense to have chinese people reading in chinese in their normal voices. I'll look into the option you mentioned.

[Noxbi 🌈]

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

I honestly can't remember pandora tomorrow, it's been too many years, but if you're going to have say, chinese soldiers, it surely makes most sense to have chinese people reading in chinese in their normal voices. I'll look into the option you mentioned.

I know what you mean, but I want to be able to understand right of the bat what is going on, and I like to use my imagination while playing games or watching films or shows. So having an English speaking characters with accents (whenever it is a real of fake accent, they are usually done by professional actors), I simply suspend my disbelief and imagine that, for example, Sam, as a character that has to know all those languages, he understands them all and it's manifested to me, the player, in english voices whether they are with or without the accents.

[vegan cookies]

Originally posted by Noxbi 🌈:

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

I honestly can't remember pandora tomorrow, it's been too many years, but if you're going to have say, chinese soldiers, it surely makes most sense to have chinese people reading in chinese in their normal voices. I'll look into the option you mentioned.

I know what you mean, but I want to be able to understand right of the bat what is going on, and I like to use my imagination while playing games or watching films or shows. So having an English speaking characters with accents (whenever it is a real of fake accent, they are usually done by professional actors), I simply suspend my disbelief and imagine that, for example, Sam, as a character that has to know all those languages, he understands them all and it's manifested to me, the player, in english voices whether they are with or without the accents.

If Sam knew all of those languages he'd be an analyst, talking down the mic to whoever is in the field!

[Noxbi 🌈]

Originally posted by vegan cookies:

If Sam knew all of those languages he'd be an analyst, talking down the mic to whoever is in the field!

Well, he was a CIA Analyst, where he met his wife, but he hated the job so he came back to the field.

[Ghidrah1]

Rough,
With my old 2001 X I used -0- rnds and only used the OCP 2 times, most times only once. With the Steam PC version I was forced to use 1 rnd on the final neon sign where you target the jet.

I recently watched someones vid and the player did shoot a speaker. My MO is to try to play it as realistic as possible under the game world circumstances, the impact noise of a rnd hitting an object/speaker is too much noise.

My opinion,
As for English being used by foreigners in the game, it would be nice to have the spoken language of origin, but I'm thinking they defaulted with English for most of us to make it easier to sync our maneuvers to the BGs dialog.

[RoughUlysses]

Originally posted by Ghidrah1:

Rough,
With my old 2001 X I used -0- rnds and only used the OCP 2 times, most times only once. With the Steam PC version I was forced to use 1 rnd on the final neon sign where you target the jet.

I recently watched someones vid and the player did shoot a speaker. My MO is to try to play it as realistic as possible under the game world circumstances, the impact noise of a rnd hitting an object/speaker is too much noise.

I know there are players who want to raise as little attention as possible. It's just a way I mentioned to be able to take the alternative route while completing the optional goal, since unable to achieve 100% makes the branching paths not so branching, like in the bathhouse you have to pick the pool area to tap one of the phone lines.

[Ghidrah1]

Understood.
It's the dim room with the staging, generator at the bottom of the empty pool and 2 patrolling BGs right?
I head right out of the bathroom, thru pool rm#1 thru the massage room, thru pool rm#2 with a steam valve, through the hlwy with the redman mopping the floor to said phone line and out undetected.

[RoughUlysses]

Originally posted by Ghidrah1:

Understood.
It's the dim room with the staging, generator at the bottom of the empty pool and 2 patrolling BGs right?
I head right out of the bathroom, thru pool rm#1 thru the massage room, thru pool rm#2 with a steam valve, through the hlwy with the redman mopping the floor to said phone line and out undetected.

Yes, but that way you went the long way round, why not turn left at the start?

[Ghidrah1]

I hate beating a dead horse but, it means cutting the plastic barrier and this would be seen by at least 3 BGs, from the locker room and pool rms #1 and 2 as they make their rounds.

[RoughUlysses]

Originally posted by Ghidrah1:

I hate beating a dead horse but, it means cutting the plastic barrier and this would be seen by at least 3 BGs, from the locker room and pool rms #1 and 2 as they make their rounds.

I see, quite a restriction you follow, as well as a challenge. I would simply cut it for convenience, but the thing is, guards in the previous area freeze themselves up when you proceed to the next, and that's probably why I never get notified of alerting anyone upon leaving the spot. Still. if you insist on not to touch a thing at all, then forget what I said. Much respect XD

[Ghidrah1]

Yes I try to ghost leaving as close to a -0- footprint as possible, and play it as close to real as possible, with minimum liberties.
I operate under the assumption that the AI is wired and like most militarized operators make regular comm checks, (realistically chaos would ensue when a patrol doesn't answer a check). When I have to KO, I sometimes use sticky cams when I can't get close enough for a grab and drag, they're endless ammo and allows me to police my brass. I'm sure this is why I don't have thousands of hits on my vids.

Correct, in the game, once you get a certain distance from the AI, they freeze in position, verified by entering virtual map. The closer AI continue moving. However, ever notice if and when you do leave a body exposed, you can be outside that freeze line and here a body found alert and or get the notice at end of game stats.