Third person view

[Saphyel]

Any plans to make it 3rd person??

I'm not really interested if it's going to be 1st person

[󠀡󠀡]

Ye sure but there is a thing, entire game must be remade cos of that

[puddingtopf]

Not the first thread about this topic...
No third person, game was built around first person. You see your character in cutscenes, inventory screens, and some animations like climbing.

[Veyron722skyhook]

Would be quite interesting having it that way. Have a more God of War feel to it.

[Ev1lV4mp1re]

I'm curious when the last one finally got it.

[SGT~PridEvans~]

the question is can you do better lol..

[DemonchanSama (Lilyia)]

Originally posted by 󠀡󠀡:

Ye sure but there is a thing, entire game must be remade cos of that

Not really, you can make a mode that switches between first and 3rd person like Oblivion.

[puddingtopf]

Originally posted by Whisper:

Not really, you can make a mode that switches between first and 3rd person like Oblivion.

Yes really, don't be dense. The player animations are most likely broken in third person, and the levels were probably not made with such a camera in mind. Do you really think it's that easy? Everybody keeps asking for it as if the devs don't already know that two different cameras would be nice. "Just make another camera lmao, it's not hard."

[DemonchanSama (Lilyia)]

Originally posted by puddingtopf:

Originally posted by Whisper:

Not really, you can make a mode that switches between first and 3rd person like Oblivion.

Yes really, don't be dense. The player animations are most likely broken in third person, and the levels were probably not made with such a camera in mind. Do you really think it's that easy? Everybody keeps asking for it as if the devs don't already know that two different cameras would be nice. "Just make another camera lmao, it's not hard."

All 3rd person view does is moves the perspective of the camera from inside the avatar to outside of it. Everything the character does outside the character will appear the same as it does from the inside. (AKA Sets the distance coordinate from an angle and position that gives the illusion of 3rd person, in reality first person perspective is the exact same thing an illusion, the camera is simply stuffed inside the avatar you control)

When you perform climbing feats, and perform other actions, this already happens,


I actually do 3d model animations in a character studio creator, and moving the camera is as easy as it sounds.

Download a free trial of unity and play around with it, its pretty fun stuff.

The only issue would be if the devs only animated the characters hands or something which would make 3rd person look awkward for Gore kills but it would not break the game.

So at worse some gore kill animations might need to be redone but certainly not the entire game.

[puddingtopf]

Have you seen third person mods in CP2077? The animations seem fine until you see them from a different perspective, or until you simply look at your shadows. That's also why you don't have any reflections unless you activate a mirror. The regular gameplay animations are broken, and I'm guessing the same is true for Succubus. Also, like I said, there are probably some level sections that wouldn't work well in third person, like tight caves or something. I'm sure the Madmind devs have some reasons for not implementing this camera, whatever those reasons may be. Saying "it's really easy, just do it" implies that they simply don't want to do it, which is unlikely.

[DemonchanSama (Lilyia)]

Originally posted by puddingtopf:

Have you seen third person mods in CP2077? The animations seem fine until you see them from a different perspective, or until you simply look at your shadows. That's also why you don't have any reflections unless you activate a mirror. The regular gameplay animations are broken, and I'm guessing the same is true for Succubus. Also, like I said, there are probably some level sections that wouldn't work well in third person, like tight caves or something. I'm sure the Madmind devs have some reasons for not implementing this camera, whatever those reasons may be. Saying "it's really easy, just do it" implies that they simply don't want to do it, which is unlikely.

It depends on the engine they are built upon really and for CP2077 it probably has more to do with the mod breaking the game since mods are not always designed in a way that best coincides with the infrastructure.

I'm just saying its not as hard as you are trying to imply it out to be, its not, Its actually very simple.

Again I shall reiterate, all it does is moves the global positioning of the character view from inside the avatar to outside of it, if you are introducing something unnatural to the code like a mod, yes that can break things, but to simply take the original camera and move it a few feet back with the ability to zoom in and out for tight caves is not a major deal, adding a zoom to the camera that collapses inwards back into the character is also not hard to do, its essentially a tag line and camera simply follows it.

The original demo for the game showed it in a 3rd person perspective, so naturally people are probably seeing that and wondering why it isn't implemented, it also makes platforming a lot easier if there will be such a thing.

3rd person is very unlikely to break the game, I don't know why you are so vehemently against it, its probably already in the game just not for the demo.

Personally I like having 3rd person since it makes it less likely you get blind sided by swarms of enemies from the sides or behind, in first person you have many blind spots.

[puddingtopf]

I am "against it" because the devs have said that they aren't going to add a third person camera, so they probably have some reasons for that. How do you suddenly think that the full game supports it, and only the demo doesn't? And why are you talking about mods in CP2077? It sounds like you've completely missed my point about character animations being unprepared for an external camera.

Of course different camera settings would be nice, but Madmind said no, so it's probably not as easy as you say.

[Saphyel]

Guys given that the game is likely to be another boring FPS, I'm not longer interested. I don't think is worth to discuss how easy/hard is so I'm gonna unsubscribe from this, have a good day folks!

[DemonchanSama (Lilyia)]

Originally posted by puddingtopf:

I am "against it" because the devs have said that they aren't going to add a third person camera, so they probably have some reasons for that. How do you suddenly think that the full game supports it, and only the demo doesn't? And why are you talking about mods in CP2077? It sounds like you've completely missed my point about character animations being unprepared for an external camera.

Of course different camera settings would be nice, but Madmind said no, so it's probably not as easy as you say.

Because you still failed to realize that my first comment destroys your entire argument.

I shall reiterate since you missed it the first couple times I stated it.

All a 3rd person view does is takes the existing camera that is stuffed inside your character you control, and moves it behind that character.

It in no way would break the game, it would only make animations look awkward if the devs were extremely lazy and did not animate anything other than what you see on screen from your character, which is probably why they are saying no because they do not want to put any extra effort into making those animations. I can speculate this could be the case behind their refusal.

Its fine if you want to simp yourself for your devs but at least know what you're talking about first when trying to argue in their favor.



But for a game that has been in the making for many years now, thats a bit disappointing really.

I'm still irritated with the raspy "Rita Repulsa" voice the Succubus sounds like.

Succubi are supposed to sound Serene and Alluring, not like an 80 yr old woman with emphysema. They are creatures designed to lure in with false security then drain life energy or souls once trapped within their embrace.

It would be more fitting to call her a Lilum or "The" Lilith in her current state. To me shes just a generic looking demon.

[puddingtopf]

Originally posted by Whisper:

Because you still failed to realize that my first comment destroys your entire argument.

I shall reiterate since you missed it the first couple times I stated it.

All a 3rd person view does is takes the existing camera that is stuffed inside your character you control, and moves it behind that character.

It in no way would break the game, it would only make animations look awkward if the devs were extremely lazy and did not animate anything other than what you see on screen from your character, which is probably why they are saying no because they do not want to put any extra effort into making those animations. I can speculate this could be the case behind their refusal.

Its fine if you want to simp yourself for your devs but at least know what you're talking about first when trying to argue in their favor.

You've repeated the same argument about broken animations that I've mentioned, then claimed that I didn't understand your argument. Then YOU failed to understand why some parts of the game may not be optimized for a third person view. I'm not simping for the devs, I'm explaining why they're probably refusing to enable this camera. Shove your condescending, insulting comments up your a** and go f**k yourself.

[DemonchanSama (Lilyia)]

Originally posted by puddingtopf:

Originally posted by Whisper:

Because you still failed to realize that my first comment destroys your entire argument.

I shall reiterate since you missed it the first couple times I stated it.

All a 3rd person view does is takes the existing camera that is stuffed inside your character you control, and moves it behind that character.

It in no way would break the game, it would only make animations look awkward if the devs were extremely lazy and did not animate anything other than what you see on screen from your character, which is probably why they are saying no because they do not want to put any extra effort into making those animations. I can speculate this could be the case behind their refusal.

Its fine if you want to simp yourself for your devs but at least know what you're talking about first when trying to argue in their favor.

You've repeated the same argument about broken animations that I've mentioned, then claimed that I didn't understand your argument. Then YOU failed to understand why some parts of the game may not be optimized for a third person view. I'm not simping for the devs, I'm explaining why they're probably refusing to enable this camera. Shove your condescending, insulting comments up your a** and go f**k yourself.

You sound very upset, is everything okay over there buddy?