Get rid of the bots.

[Verdicts]

Honestly it is pathetic. 8 Years on, and still a problem. Trying to compete with 5-6 bots to mine a bit of coal, having them flood the market with automated actions so cheating is done by some people just to stay on a fair field. I can be the only player in a field of automation, report them, and they will be there the next day. It is so painfully obvious.
Make the anti-bot ingame events actually punish them, or detect them better, or actually respond to reports, or something. I sure as hell don't see why I should pay money to play a game where most of the content is owned by a handful of players using automation to get an unfair advantage.

[Zoidberg]

Originally posted by Sir Benton of Lawdyrdale:

The only 'bots' I see are the ones that do the flashy advertisements in the GE or outside the Lumbridge castle

Then you need to open your eyes, They are literally at every skilling spot.

[HondaRadio]

Originally posted by Reese:

You can't beat cheating. It doesn't matter if it's a bot problem(MMO) or an aimbot problem(FPS). Beating cheaters is an impossible task with current technology. Even if they managed to break every bot and be able to detect every bot that is currently in development today, come tomorrow there'll be a new bot to replace it.

Same for banning those bots. Every bot that is playing right now could be banned, and by this time tomorrow, every single one of them would be replaced with a new bot. Jagex cannot win this battle. It's impossible.

I hear they're always hiring developers. This seems like a great opportunity for you to offer your services to do what no other developer in the last 40 years of video games could do.

As for me, starting fresh with the release on Steam, I see a handful of bots on free worlds. I certainly don't feel like I'm competing with any bots. In the time since 2007, there are far more resources available that makes it unreasonable to assume you can't play due to bots.

It would be easy to reduce them significantly, but require will from the developer. I have never been asked to prove I am human on OSRS. Each play session should test every couple of hours, just pop up a captcha. They could make special little minigames in keeping with the setting. If 4chan can manage to stop spam bots I'm sure Jagex could. if they wanted to.

[HondaRadio]

Originally posted by Sir Benton of Lawdyrdale:

The only 'bots' I see are the ones that do the flashy advertisements in the GE or outside the Lumbridge castle

There are millions, they make up most players in some areas, especially at quiet times. The entire economy is skewed by them.

[jeremyb616]

Originally posted by andycronshaw:

There are far too many, but they are paying customers so jagex does not really care.

no alot of the bots are not paying customers you idiot, most of the bot farmers end up using the gp they earnt o fund memberships for the bots

Bonds

[RebelMouth]

Originally posted by jeremyb616:

Originally posted by andycronshaw:

There are far too many, but they are paying customers so jagex does not really care.

no alot of the bots are not paying customers you idiot, most of the bot farmers end up using the gp they earnt o fund memberships for the bots

Bonds

With all due respect you said yourself you just got into OSRS on another thread. Jagex themselves claim over 90% of accounts are members so this just doesn't seem to hold water.

[sudokek]

Botters are absolutely paying customers. There's a lot of irl money that can be made.

[Alexalmighty]

they make enough money in game for their most efficient bots to be paid for by throwaway acc's odds are the more major bot communities are completely funded by bonds

[jeremyb616]

Originally posted by RebelMouth:

Originally posted by jeremyb616:

no alot of the bots are not paying customers you idiot, most of the bot farmers end up using the gp they earnt o fund memberships for the bots

Bonds

With all due respect you said yourself you just got into OSRS on another thread. Jagex themselves claim over 90% of accounts are members so this just doesn't seem to hold water.

you realize you can buy a bond for 6m in game currency and not pay for memmbership right? I know thats a tough concept to get through but the only time bot farms pay for membership is when they are just starting out. and even then I figure most bot farms would utilize f2p bots first to build up the bonds needed to fund memberships for accounts which is the most logical cost effective way to do it.

Been watching way too much sirpuggers

also refertencing my thread has nothing to correlate to this thread, that was such a strawman

[Hawkstein]

Didn't Jagex remove hostile random events? Putting them back might solve the problem.

Originally posted by andycronshaw:

There are far too many, but they are paying customers so jagex does not really care.

Most bots buy bonds with gp that they get from bot farming and/or create multiple accounts and get a free sub from twitch prime at each one of them.

[RebelMouth]

Originally posted by jeremyb616:

Originally posted by RebelMouth:

With all due respect you said yourself you just got into OSRS on another thread. Jagex themselves claim over 90% of accounts are members so this just doesn't seem to hold water.

you realize you can buy a bond for 6m in game currency and not pay for memmbership right? I know thats a tough concept to get through but the only time bot farms pay for membership is when they are just starting out. and even then I figure most bot farms would utilize f2p bots first to build up the bonds needed to fund memberships for accounts which is the most logical cost effective way to do it.

Been watching way too much sirpuggers

also refertencing my thread has nothing to correlate to this thread, that was such a strawman

you clearly know nothing about how RMT'ers work. They have more than enough accounts, bonds and funds for membership. You're literally assuming a fresh, single botter.

idk who sirpuggers is.

Not a strawman - you know nothing about the game. Completely valid point, Google is your friend, don't just repeat things your older brother said.

[~Neon Doom~]

To much money in bots jagex takes a slice of the pie don't kid yourself

the game has to abolish the old client and implement a new one like steam that uses C++ with real time monitoring all inputs all commands sent out from the computer for each account like a type of anti cheat systems other online games use

but will they have the resources to pull this off and the man power....i doubt it the OSRS staff is a small team less then 30 people thats tiny

[~Neon Doom~]

Originally posted by Doctor G:

Originally posted by Verdicts:

Honestly it is pathetic. 8 Years on, and still a problem. Trying to compete with 5-6 bots to mine a bit of coal, having them flood the market with automated actions so cheating is done by some people just to stay on a fair field. I can be the only player in a field of automation, report them, and they will be there the next day. It is so painfully obvious.
Make the anti-bot ingame events actually punish them, or detect them better, or actually respond to reports, or something. I sure as hell don't see why I should pay money to play a game where most of the content is owned by a handful of players using automation to get an unfair advantage.

the Dev could just offer the Materials for cash offline for lower then what these people offer, and make money doing it. it would crash the market

you got told already about this idea and your dead wrong and no it will not solve anything stop spreading this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and get your facts together from the community the majority will never agree to something this stupid.

[Friendly]

Originally posted by Hawkstein:

Didn't Jagex remove hostile random events? Putting them back might solve the problem.

Originally posted by andycronshaw:

There are far too many, but they are paying customers so jagex does not really care.

Most bots buy bonds with gp that they get from bot farming and/or create multiple accounts and get a free sub from twitch prime at each one of them.

Bots are far too advanced noweredays to be affected by random events.. which is part of the reason they were removed. The other part being it is annoying for real players.

[Hawkstein]

Originally posted by Friendly:

Bots are far too advanced noweredays to be affected by random events..

I don't see a lvl3 bot not getting affected by random-event enemy spawns like lvl159 Evil Chicken, River Troll and Swarm, nor Axe/Pickaxe head forcedrops.

The latter even benefits real players by stealing their dropped heads and sell them at the GE or get a handle and then reattatch both if you have a lower level pickaxe/axe (got my first Rune Pickaxe this way back then in 2005).

[jeremyb616]

Originally posted by RebelMouth:

Originally posted by jeremyb616:

you realize you can buy a bond for 6m in game currency and not pay for memmbership right? I know thats a tough concept to get through but the only time bot farms pay for membership is when they are just starting out. and even then I figure most bot farms would utilize f2p bots first to build up the bonds needed to fund memberships for accounts which is the most logical cost effective way to do it.

Been watching way too much sirpuggers

also refertencing my thread has nothing to correlate to this thread, that was such a strawman

you clearly know nothing about how RMT'ers work. They have more than enough accounts, bonds and funds for membership. You're literally assuming a fresh, single botter.

idk who sirpuggers is.

Not a strawman - you know nothing about the game. Completely valid point, Google is your friend, don't just repeat things your older brother said.

when its not relevant to the topic at hand but your trying to correlate it when it has nothign to do with bots. strawman argument mentioning the post i made about my account being hacked versus a thread someone made about bots, ♥♥♥♥ you are dumb

second sirpuggers is a well known bot buster on the youtubes with alot more insight then your stupid ass has on the bot network and how real world trading in rs works,


ive played this game when i was 12 back in 2009, eat a ♥♥♥♥