What is the appeal about Tali?

[Daddy Kaneki]

I get it, she's a smoll thingy that looks up to you and always welcomes your guidance. I get the appeal.

I'm simply wondering why so many people are attracted to that specifically. Is the majority really into Tali that much more than any other character?

[DarkHoodness]

I see Shepard as a character which I control or pilot like a remote drone, like most game characters, even ones in MMOs which I create - I've never been immersed enough to feel like I am him/her. Perhaps that says something about my personality.

In my few playthroughs of the trilogy, I picked Tali as MaleShep, and Garrus as FemShep, mainly because out of all the romance options, they're along for the ride in all three games. And I think Shepard deserves to be happy with their companion for as much of their (terminal!) journey as possible. Tali and Garrus are the most loyal out of all the companions (plus Garrus is a god, especially in ME3).

Tali is kind of boring once you see through her initial mystique, but she really admires Shepard and seems like she'll do anything for him, especially after all he does for her - Saving her from being court-marshalled (despite the major plot flaws) and making peace between the Quarian and the Geth, allowing the Quarians to settle on their homeworld again - Of course she's in love with him. :P She's with him in all three games too, so a relationship with her makes sense.

I avoid picking a romance partner for Shepard in the first game, saving him/her for Tali or Garrus from ME2 onwards. Ashley and Kaiden aren't good characters compared to the others, mainly because they turn their backs on Shepard in ME2 (though I prefer Kaiden over Ashley, he's less... Prickly and xenophobic), and you have to choose between them in ME1. Liara is the canonical choice, and she gains a level of badass in the third game, but she's nearly absent in the second game, apart from a brief cameo and the Shadow Broker DLC (which I didn't own).

FluffyNinjaLlama put together a comprehensive series of videos showing the other romance options and most of the choices in the ME series - And I actually don't have a preference for any of the characters, they're all interesting in their own way.

Jack and Miranda both have their story arcs - A relationship with Miranda makes sense because she resurrected and rebuilt Shepard, and he returns the favour by saving her sister from her crazy father, then romances her - And of course she isn't as cold as she appears. A romance with Jack helps to stabilise her if you don't have Shepard outright bang her first before romancing her properly - She actually likes paragons and deserves some happiness after all she went through, IMO. But the both of them aren't with Shepard in ME3, too busy doing their own things with the imminent Repear invasion - Which Shepard chips in to help with, but they aren't seen much afterwards.

Femshep has it rough in ME2. Jacob ends up betraying Shepard, and is largely absent form ME3. Thane is nice, but dies in ME3. Garrus really is the best choice, plus his romantic incompetence is kinda funny, almost like you're not meant to have Shepard romance him. :) But the two make a great couple IMO.

It's nice the game gives you options to have Shepard romance the side characters, but none of them really get much screen time. It doesn't make sense to have Shepard choose them over the main squadmates, apart from maybe Traynor if you're playing as Femshep in ME3, at least she's funny and sort of interesting.

[Dr.Abscondus]

Tali is mysterious because all you have to go on is her voice, a hint of eyes and a dynamite figure. She's obviously a character meant to make you think of Islamic women where all you can see are beautiful eyes and your imagination does the rest. Men have no shortage of imagination.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Messaggio originale di Masaru Enatsu:

I get it, she's a smoll thingy that looks up to you and always welcomes your guidance. I get the appeal.

I'm simply wondering why so many people are attracted to that specifically. Is the majority really into Tali that much more than any other character?

she horny for shepard since mass effect 1 it's confirme in mass effect 2 with kelly saying she wants to be more then friends

[Commander Hitman2b]

Messaggio originale di USG Hitman2b:

Messaggio originale di Masaru Enatsu:

I get it, she's a smoll thingy that looks up to you and always welcomes your guidance. I get the appeal.

I'm simply wondering why so many people are attracted to that specifically. Is the majority really into Tali that much more than any other character?

she horny for shepard since mass effect 1

Messaggio originale di Daemoc:

Messaggio originale di Masaru Enatsu:

Elaborate on your meaning.

In the context of your question and Ogami's answer I think the age of the gamer probably has a lot to do with Tali in that regard.

i mean possible but even when i was a kid i was more attracted to liara more then tali

[Banana Duck ඞ]

i love Tali, best character, ive never understood why Garrus is so popular, hes boring

[jackhickman999]

Messaggio originale di Daemoc:

In the context of your question and Ogami's answer I think the age of the gamer probably has a lot to do with Tali in that regard.

i mean possible but even when i was a kid i was more attracted to liara more then tali [/quote]

Both Liara and Tali are in terms of maturity are of similar age though we're talking a few years at best though technically in-game it's likely less of a difference because Tali is about to come of age and Liara has basically recently become of age. I think they later reverse in ME 2 as Liara feels less mature than Tali.
I think what I'm saying is accurate as it's reflected in that I've seen both referred to as "little sisters". Little sisters being a trope. Though that's more often used on Tali as she's a closer fit and slightly younger in terms of maturity.
I'd also add I wouldn't personally call them little sister characters personally because it's just a strange saying. Just saying they are too young is more appropriate and respectful really.

As an adult 28 I'm not really interested in any character. Though in a thought experiment I would chose Ashley nowadays.
Age/maturity is a part of what we look in any relationship to extent but especially in choosing people we are attracted to. It's a common thing. I had a teen crush on Tali and thought Ashley was too old when I was like 14. I now think Tali is too young and Ashley is about right. That fits social norms and fits what sociology tells us that generally people prefer people of a similar age. Though that changes somewhat person to person, your sex and age group also change that somewhat as well. Though your own age group is preferred unless you're a women who's hit cougar stage.

[jackhickman999]

Messaggio originale di USG Hitman2b:

Messaggio originale di USG Hitman2b:

she horny for shepard since mass effect 1

Messaggio originale di Daemoc:

In the context of your question and Ogami's answer I think the age of the gamer probably has a lot to do with Tali in that regard.

i mean possible but even when i was a kid i was more attracted to liara more then tali

Both Liara and Tali are in terms of maturity are of similar age though we're talking a few years at best though technically in-game it's likely less of a difference because Tali is about to come of age and Liara has basically recently become of age. I think they later reverse in ME 2 as Liara feels less mature than Tali.
I think what I'm saying is accurate as it's reflected in that I've seen both referred to as "little sisters". Little sisters being a trope. Though that's more often used on Tali as she's a closer fit and slightly younger in terms of maturity.
I'd also add I wouldn't personally call them little sister characters personally because it's just a strange saying. Just saying they are too young is more appropriate and respectful really.

As an adult 28 I'm not really interested in any character. Though in a thought experiment I would chose Ashley nowadays.
Age/maturity is a part of what we look in any relationship to an extent but especially in choosing people we are attracted to. It's a common thing. I had a teen crush on Tali and thought Ashley was too old when I was like 14. I now think Tali is too young and Ashley is about right. That fits social norms and fits what sociology tells us that generally people prefer people of a similar age. Though that changes somewhat person to person, your sex and age group also change that somewhat as well. Though your own age group is preferred unless you're a women who's hit cougar stage.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Messaggio originale di Banana Duck:

i love Tali, best character, ive never understood why Garrus is so popular, hes boring

because he love to calibrate ( you should do the DLC citadel with garrus and liara it's so much fun

[Commander Hitman2b]

Messaggio originale di jackhickman999:

Messaggio originale di USG Hitman2b:

i mean possible but even when i was a kid i was more attracted to liara more then tali

Both Liara and Tali are in terms of maturity are of similar age though we're talking a few years at best though technically in-game it's likely less of a difference because Tali is about to come of age and Liara has basically recently become of age. I think they later reverse in ME 2 as Liara feels less mature than Tali.
I think what I'm saying is accurate as it's reflected in that I've seen both referred to as "little sisters". Little sisters being a trope. Though that's more often used on Tali as she's a closer fit and slightly younger in terms of maturity.
I'd also add I wouldn't personally call them little sister characters personally because it's just a strange saying. Just saying they are too young is more appropriate and respectful really.

As an adult 28 I'm not really interested in any character. Though in a thought experiment I would chose Ashley nowadays.
Age/maturity is a part of what we look in any relationship to an extent but especially in choosing people we are attracted to. It's a common thing. I had a teen crush on Tali and thought Ashley was too old when I was like 14. I now think Tali is too young and Ashley is about right. That fits social norms and fits what sociology tells us that generally people prefer people of a similar age. Though that changes somewhat person to person, your sex and age group also change that somewhat as well. Though your own age group is preferred unless you're a women who's hit cougar stage.

am 23 almost 24 and yeah nah ashley isn't really my type, sure she look gorgeous in 3 , Kelly could be a good too tho it's not a relationship, miranda is gorgeous too but don't really like her that much personnality wise until a certain point, Samara if it was a long relationship i would say heck yeah even tho she a bit cold when you think about it

[Team Triss]

Is it really hard to imagine why the geeky girl next door vibe is popular with the kind of people (you know, geeks) who play sci fi RPGs like this?

That said, I've never romanced her (I like keeping continuity so I've always stuck with whoever from ME1), but her voice is sexy and she's got that innocent Kaylee from Firefly vibe.

[Commander Hitman2b]

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

Is it really hard to imagine why the geeky girl next door vibe is popular with the kind of people (you know, geeks) who play sci fi RPGs like this?

That said, I've never romanced her (I like keeping continuity so I've always stuck with whoever from ME1), but her voice is sexy and she's got that innocent Kaylee from Firefly vibe.

she cute when drunk too

[jackhickman999]

Messaggio originale di USG Hitman2b:

Messaggio originale di jackhickman999:

Both Liara and Tali are in terms of maturity are of similar age though we're talking a few years at best though technically in-game it's likely less of a difference because Tali is about to come of age and Liara has basically recently become of age. I think they later reverse in ME 2 as Liara feels less mature than Tali.
I think what I'm saying is accurate as it's reflected in that I've seen both referred to as "little sisters". Little sisters being a trope. Though that's more often used on Tali as she's a closer fit and slightly younger in terms of maturity.
I'd also add I wouldn't personally call them little sister characters personally because it's just a strange saying. Just saying they are too young is more appropriate and respectful really.

As an adult 28 I'm not really interested in any character. Though in a thought experiment I would chose Ashley nowadays.
Age/maturity is a part of what we look in any relationship to an extent but especially in choosing people we are attracted to. It's a common thing. I had a teen crush on Tali and thought Ashley was too old when I was like 14. I now think Tali is too young and Ashley is about right. That fits social norms and fits what sociology tells us that generally people prefer people of a similar age. Though that changes somewhat person to person, your sex and age group also change that somewhat as well. Though your own age group is preferred unless you're a women who's hit cougar stage.

am 23 almost 24 and yeah nah ashley isn't really my type, sure she look gorgeous in 3 , Kelly could be a good too tho it's not a relationship, miranda is gorgeous too but don't really like her that much personnality wise until a certain point, Samara if it was a long relationship i would say heck yeah even tho she a bit cold when you think about it

Yeah but we're talking about rules and not exceptions. Nor opinions. I think that's the point you're missing. It's not really about mine or yours taste it's about why they as popular as they are including as many factors for a logical reason. Me giving myself as an example in reality of the theory behind it. That generally that is the case. You can like whoever you like or dislike. That said doesn't change that Tali and Liara have the correct age also going for them.

Ashley again is similar in age group/maturity/looks to Miranda. So why you make a distinction between them in age is beyond me. Miranda is supposed to be 35 which basically no would say yeah she looks 35. Her face model was the same age as Ashley 27-28 is in game at the time. I guess the gene tailoring helped massively in keeping her young. Both are full blown women. Samara is the only one that looks remotely 30. Her face model being actually 30 at the time.

[Daddy Kaneki]

Messaggio originale di O'neill-san:

Messaggio originale di Masaru Enatsu:

It's clear why people are into Liara. She's a 100 year old alien that acts like an 18 year old foreign exchange student. I find it mildly annoying, but many people are attracted to it for the same exact reason that we find it annoying. It's subjectivity.

If she was 20 it wouldn't be annoying to me at all, but being hundreds of years old and still having the persona of a Japanese schoolgirl visiting America for the first time is just cringe.

There is also a very heavy romantic undertone at the end of Lair of the Shadow Broker even if you didn't romance Liara (Shepard goes "I hope I'll see you again soon" after she leaves in a very hopeless-romantic way.) It's strange because BioWare doesn't screw up when it comes to player choice, and it's unlikely to be an oversight because *it's the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ending of the dlc.* It's not a fault on Liara's character so much as it's extremely confusing, because it's hard to believe it's an oversight but it just might be.

Wow...what a thing to make up. Like a schoolgirl, yeah right.

I made that comment when I was in ME1, now that I've seen Liara's character growth I can add an addendum. She went from schoolgirly and naive in ME1 to intense, serious, and dramatic in ME2 and 3. This doesn't make Liara more attractive, rather it makes her less annoying. However I can see how and why people are attracted to her after her character growth. She's very Bond-esque, secret agent lady with lots of money, resources, and connections, who likes to brood and is powerful on her own, and is probably very lonely.

If you're saying I "made up" her schoolgirl-esque behavior in the first game, well then you and I simply see her differently. That's definitely the way she behaved in the first game. Not the other two, they weren't even what I was talking about anyway.

[Daddy Kaneki]

Messaggio originale di jackhickman999:

Ashley again is similar in age group/maturity/looks to Miranda.

Miranda is more mature and looks completely different than Ashley in the best possible way. Comparing Miranda to Ashley just doesn't work. Ashley is a bimbo

[Raggle Fraggles]