What the ♥♥♥♥ did they even remaster?

[Tazor]

I'm looking at side by side video comparisons and it's difficult to see any improvements.

Textures look the same.

3D models look the same.

Reflections look the same.

Rain effects seem to look a bit better in the remaster.

The lighting on the other hand is awful. Worse than the original. Everything looks much darker in broad daylight for no reason.

Is there more content? Mod support? Overhauled game mechanics? What?

[Syncroniam]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by d0x360:

Let's see..

Better SMAA
Addition of TAA
Better textures on certain world objects
Better textures on cars
New lighting system
Improved motion blur (way more samples)
Lighting Bloom
Lense flare on proper objects
Better shadows (original was 512 this is 2042)
Better shadow draw distance
Massively increased draw distance and LOD system
Better Reflections on the cars
Faster loading
Improved netcode (much much better than it was)
Cross platform play (more people to play with)
Better support for modern hardware (less visual glitches)

That's just the stuff I've noticed so far.

Ok?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21qljPi5iIE&ts&ab_channel=CROWNED

lol comparing graphics from a recorded and encoded video is different from it actually being played on your system. You must be new to PC gaming smh.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Syncroniam:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Ok?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21qljPi5iIE&ts&ab_channel=CROWNED

lol comparing graphics from a recorded and encoded video is different from it actually being played on your system. You must be new to PC gaming smh.

Yeah...I will give EA 30 euros and trust them cos it says remastered on the cover. They never lied before. You're right. It's all because of the video encoding. I bet once I start playing myself the differences will be as clear as in Resident Evil 2.

[_MaZ_TeR_]

Originally posted by Lars:

Maybe it should, depending on what you are expecting. They are not going to make any changes to the games outside of touching up textures, character models and effects, support for modern resolutions and frame rates. That is all they have announced, so if you're expecting anything else you're in for disappointment.

I think especially ME1+2 are still great games but could use some updating, so I am happy they're revisiting the titles and touching them up a bit.

The thing is that ME1 and 2 need more than just texture touch ups. A lot of people choose to skip ME1 completely because of how broken the gameplay is. ME2 is slightly better but it's not as good as ME3. If they could add the gameplay of ME3 to all three games, that'd be super good

[Syncroniam]

Originally posted by Tazor:

Originally posted by Syncroniam:

lol comparing graphics from a recorded and encoded video is different from it actually being played on your system. You must be new to PC gaming smh.

Yeah...I will give EA 30 euros and trust them cos it says remastered on the cover. They never lied before. You're right. It's all because of the video encoding. I bet once I start playing myself the differences will be as clear as in Resident Evil 2.

You act like 30 euros is a lot, it's not.

[NTU]

Originally posted by Syncroniam:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Yeah...I will give EA 30 euros and trust them cos it says remastered on the cover. They never lied before. You're right. It's all because of the video encoding. I bet once I start playing myself the differences will be as clear as in Resident Evil 2.

You act like 30 euros is a lot, it's not.

His comment is pending review so I quoted him to speed it up.

You don't own this game, yet you're defending it.. Why are you here exactly? I'm not buying it because it doesn't support wheels, you don't have an excuse because you're acting like a paid EA shill.

Originally posted by Syncroniam:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Ok?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21qljPi5iIE&ts&ab_channel=CROWNED

lol comparing graphics from a recorded and encoded video is different from it actually being played on your system. You must be new to PC gaming smh.

If you can't really tell the difference between either side and it's not because of the bitrate of the encoded video, they didn't change much. Both sides are clear, for remastering the game it should look a lot better.

The method works and you can see it here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZH0lWzaP0A

Your argument is invalid, you're a shill and a troll.

[Zappieroth]

People and their terrible Nostalgic memory.
This game already looks leageaus better then the original on top of every other improvement.

[Tazor]

Originally posted by Syncroniam:

Originally posted by Tazor:

Yeah...I will give EA 30 euros and trust them cos it says remastered on the cover. They never lied before. You're right. It's all because of the video encoding. I bet once I start playing myself the differences will be as clear as in Resident Evil 2.

You act like 30 euros is a lot, it's not.

If it's not a lot then give me 30 euros. Thanks.

[Lufka]

went from mixed to positive, looks like people never learn.

[Hocksmonovits]

Originally posted by Lufka:

went from mixed to positive, looks like people never learn.

Angry man is angry at people having fun.

[NTU]

Originally posted by Syncroniam:

Originally posted by Tazor:

If it's not a lot then give me 30 euros. Thanks.

You wish, get your own money peasant.

Calling people peasants is nice in your world.

Originally posted by Zappieroth:

People and their terrible Nostalgic memory.
This game already looks leageaus better then the original on top of every other improvement.

Does it really? Do you have proof?

[Lars]

There are a couple improvements, but not many. In the hours I've sunk into this so far the only changes I see is that the draw distance on foliage and terrain features has been increased substantially. There are also lens flares from light sources, and of course the option to enable AA.

I've not been able to identify a single texture or model in the game that looks brushed up for this release, and I have quite a few hours clocked on the original version, even quite recently, so I'd like to think I'd be able to spot any changes.

[NTU]

Originally posted by Lars:

There are a couple improvements, but not many. In the hours I've sunk into this so far the only changes I see is that the draw distance on foliage and terrain features has been increased substantially. There are also lens flares from light sources, and of course the option to enable AA.

I've not been able to identify a single texture or model in the game that looks brushed up for this release, and I have quite a few hours clocked on the original version, even quite recently, so I'd like to think I'd be able to spot any changes.

To me, that's not worth $30 bucks.

[Hocksmonovits]

Originally posted by Lars:

There are a couple improvements, but not many. In the hours I've sunk into this so far the only changes I see is that the draw distance on foliage and terrain features has been increased substantially. There are also lens flares from light sources, and of course the option to enable AA.

I've not been able to identify a single texture or model in the game that looks brushed up for this release, and I have quite a few hours clocked on the original version, even quite recently, so I'd like to think I'd be able to spot any changes.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2282509144
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2282527038
Both at the game's max settings @ 1080p on Muscle Reflex with the Bee Yellow Camaro.
Not too much changed. The reflections are much higher quality in the Remaster, there is no longer any Z Fighting in the reflections like in the original. The weird saturation filter is gone and the lighting is less wacky. The car stays Bee Yellow in the desert, rather than looking burnt orange. The road no longer turns into a black abyss when you're out of the sun like in the original. The foliage looks sun-bleached green rather than dark green or brown.
Shadows look a bit better, you can see the phone lines casting shadows now.
I don't see much changes in the textures. The hills in the back just look like a up-rezzed version of the same texture.
Also you can't hide the photo controls in the original. It expects you to upload it to autolog, where it will then destroy the quality.

[NTU]

Originally posted by Hocksmonovits:

Originally posted by Lars:

There are a couple improvements, but not many. In the hours I've sunk into this so far the only changes I see is that the draw distance on foliage and terrain features has been increased substantially. There are also lens flares from light sources, and of course the option to enable AA.

I've not been able to identify a single texture or model in the game that looks brushed up for this release, and I have quite a few hours clocked on the original version, even quite recently, so I'd like to think I'd be able to spot any changes.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2282509144
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2282527038
Both at the game's max settings @ 1080p on Muscle Reflex with the Bee Yellow Camaro.
Not too much changed. The reflections are much higher quality in the Remaster, there is no longer any Z Fighting in the reflections like in the original. The weird saturation filter is gone and the lighting is less wacky. The car stays Bee Yellow in the desert, rather than looking burnt orange. The road no longer turns into a black abyss when you're out of the sun like in the original. The foliage looks sun-bleached green rather than dark green or brown.
Shadows look a bit better, you can see the phone lines casting shadows now.
I don't see much changes in the textures. The hills in the back just look like a up-rezzed version of the same texture.
Also you can't hide the photo controls in the original. It expects you to upload it to autolog, where it will then destroy the quality.

Waiting for Syncroniam to say, "ZOMG YOU'RE ALL IDIOTS! YOU CAN'T TELL HOW MUCH BETTER THE GRAPHICS ARE THROUGH SCREENSHOTS! NOOBS!!!!!!!!!!!"

Hocksmonovits, thank you for contributing useful content to the thread.

Also.. This part is hilarious:

Also you can't hide the photo controls in the original. It expects you to upload it to autolog, where it will then destroy the quality.

What if that was on purpose to encourage people to not say it like it is?

[Hocksmonovits]

Originally posted by NTU:

Also.. This part is hilarious:

Also you can't hide the photo controls in the original. It expects you to upload it to autolog, where it will then destroy the quality.

What if that was on purpose to encourage people to not say it like it is?

I mean if the goal was to say the original looks better, comparing steam's screenshots to an Autolog upload at like 50% JPG compression is never gonna come out in Autolog's favor lol.
More confused as to why people say they miss Autolog honestly. You still get all of its photo mode functions, you just miss out on a pointless achievement and it disconnecting randomly like on PS3.