Dual Swords? Why? They seem weak.

[Fraktal]

I got a good pair of the purity blades and thought I would try them out and bench my tonfas for awhile. Trying to get the Demon Slayer set.

Holy smokes, the damage is just not there and my tonfas attack much quicker!

I feel within 2minutes of testing out my build I hated everything about it.

How do people play dual swords? It seems every other revenant has them.... or is that why they are revenants? Bad weapon?

[󠀡]

chances are you're not able to use them to their full extent after 2 minutes of testing.

I thought the same thing when I tried fists after Tonfa and now (like 80 hours of playing with
both of them) I realize how ridiculous they are. There are enemies they work better than tonfa against, and some enemies Tonfa are better.

[amathy]

they're pretty strong lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HmGa6ytCyo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiRDKO8p9nU

just practice with them more, the damage definitely is there

[bloodyvenus]

I think dual swords are strong and very easy to use. Dual swords have a very outstanding skill 'God of Wind III' which can deals massive ki damage. And they also has various high damage skill like 'Cherry Blossom', 'Sign of the Cross', 'Water Sword', that allow you deal massive damage after your opponent was down or out of ki. So you basically use 'God of Wind III' to nullity opponent's ki, then deal damage to them. By do it repeatedly, you can simply win any opponent in a one on one fight.

[Bishop]

Dual sword is all about spamming its top skills. It's not a combo heavy weapon and without these skills unlocked will feel weak.

[Tauriz]

They seem to be weak at the start, that's true. I was using them all the way alongside with single katana on my first playthrough, but they seem to be weak only there, and only bcuz there weren't good skills in my posession. They'll become much more better (appliable to any weapon tho) as you use them in combat, unlocking skills. Also i'd recommend you to grind (SPOILER) Tokichiro, he drops two really good skills for duals. You could grind Saito for Dragon Claw (the grapple that suck anima out of human enemy with zero ki). Now i'm almost stopped using duals, katana has really good skill Kurama sword dance and i like it too much mixing it with other katana skills. But duals are good as a secondary weapon to me, using them to apply purity to the enemies mostly. And no, i disagree with Bishop, i think any weapon can be used for spamming, it's just your choice how to play. I've learned many things from some videos and it's much more enjoyable to play stylish, making powerful combos in different stances rather than just spamming single skill all the time.

[Yuki Terumi]

Duals swords are amazing.
Low stance for applying debuffs quickly, plus some moves have great utility in that you can used them to jump over enemies and re position or avoid getting hit if timed well.

The skill that lets you dash forward on ki pulse + windstorm keeps human bosses blocking.
You can also just chain sotc spam stuff to death,
God of wind into windstorm into sotc finishing with cherry blossom does amazing damage, even more so if running susano and at 9 stacks.

Seriously, cherry blossom just deletes, better not miss though.

[Sir_Knight_Arthorias]

Първоначално публикувано от The Orange and Blue Ninja:

I got a good pair of the purity blades and thought I would try them out and bench my tonfas for awhile. Trying to get the Demon Slayer set.

Holy smokes, the damage is just not there and my tonfas attack much quicker!

I feel within 2minutes of testing out my build I hated everything about it.

How do people play dual swords? It seems every other revenant has them.... or is that why they are revenants? Bad weapon?

Dual Swords are my faves by far, In simply adore them.

[Amene]

Първоначално публикувано от The Orange and Blue Ninja:

I got a good pair of the purity blades and thought I would try them out and bench my tonfas for awhile. Trying to get the Demon Slayer set.

Holy smokes, the damage is just not there and my tonfas attack much quicker!

I feel within 2minutes of testing out my build I hated everything about it.

How do people play dual swords? It seems every other revenant has them.... or is that why they are revenants? Bad weapon?

SotC - with animation cancel via aim or ki pulse, whichever applies at any given moment. Most people playing dual or single swords spam SotC/IaI a lot (myself including), though don't forget other skills as well =)

[JtDarth]

Първоначално публикувано от Amene:

Първоначално публикувано от The Orange and Blue Ninja:

I got a good pair of the purity blades and thought I would try them out and bench my tonfas for awhile. Trying to get the Demon Slayer set.

Holy smokes, the damage is just not there and my tonfas attack much quicker!

I feel within 2minutes of testing out my build I hated everything about it.

How do people play dual swords? It seems every other revenant has them.... or is that why they are revenants? Bad weapon?

SotC - with animation cancel via aim or ki pulse, whichever applies at any given moment. Most people playing dual or single swords spam SotC/IaI a lot (myself including), though don't forget other skills as well =)

You don't even need sign of the cross with cancels to be ridiculous. A big part of weapons in Nioh 2 is their 'category', that is to say 'active skill' based weapons and 'moveset' weapons.

Sword, dual sword, spear and Fists have most of their capability locked behind actively utilizing a variety of 'deliberate' skills that don't flow directly from combos.
Tonfa, Odachi, Splitstaff, Switchglaive and Axe are more focused around one or two active skills with the rest being flowing through normal moveset and 'passive active' skills that just rely on combo finishers.

The biggest reason for this distinction, is either amount of skills available, or skills being overspecialized to the point where they are useful in too few of scenarios for a user to actually bother making use of them.


I'm not saying you can't get away with just spamming one or two skills on the first category (active skills based), I'm saying you will be drastically less effective than you would be utilizing the rest of the skills that are available.

Sword in particular demonstrates this pretty well. Very little ki-pressure if you are just spamming one or two skills. But when you are flowing between available options, it more than holds it's own pressure-wise.

[Rimurutempest88]

I just came to say I love duel swords. I mean cherry blossom and sign of the cross alone are super beast

[Shakaka]

dual swords are stupid strong, they can make you tanky, have high maneuverability, and have crazy burst

[Fraktal]

Just respec into dual swords. Looking for the demon slayer set with purity talisman.

So far so good I guess.

[Nigrescence]

Dual swords are pretty good actually. They can appear bad when you have zero of the tree unlocked and no support. Unlocking the tree drastically changes them.

[Amene]

Първоначално публикувано от JtDarth:

I'm not saying you can't get away with just spamming one or two skills on the first category (active skills based), I'm saying you will be drastically less effective than you would be utilizing the rest of the skills that are available.

I mentioned "don't forget other skills" for a reason =) (but the allure of sheated-weapon attacks is there of course).

[Crowmanhunter]

God of Wind is one of the most consistent Ki destroyers, and Water Sword absolutely melts any boss that has super armor. Or if you manage to somehow sandwhich a human boss into a corner with Water Sword? Just laugh in their face as they trail and fail to block your infinite barrage of blows.

Best weapon.