Nioh 2 – The Complete Edition

Nioh 2 – The Complete Edition

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Sokurah Jun 4, 2021 @ 3:18pm
Is Yatsu-no-Kami supposed to be so tedious or am i'm missing something?
I actually beat her with no hints one try after wasting my Yokai form on her and died XD

I get that you can stagger her and i made that a few times but the burst counter felt very unsecure or the timing very tight so that i just started to aviod the red attacks.

But that meant it was a very long and tedious fight. There is basically one safe opening, rinse and repeat.

The moveset is easy enough but in the end i started to make mistakes again just because of lack of concentration because the figh was so long and unsatisfying.

Also even with the burst counter it was not too easy to get her down for a stab, i mean she was spamming her yokai realm so often.

Can you catually do something to avoid her doing it or at least shorten the time of the dark realm? Do you need to purify the pools? I did a few times but tbh it was hard enough to just avoid the 3 snakes and the range attacks in that time.

So far i really like the game but i dont think thats a real good boss. Or am i'm just missing something?

thx
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Drybonz Jun 4, 2021 @ 3:24pm 
Git gud, of course.
Sokurah Jun 4, 2021 @ 3:31pm 
I suppose you think that was terribly clever

XenoEvil Jun 4, 2021 @ 3:47pm 
All bosses go into dark realm phase and out of it when you do enough damage or ki break them. You need to learn what moves is good at dealing ki damage and what moves are good at hitting enemies weak point. When enemies are ki broken, every attack will stagger them so go all out to bring them down.
Crimsomrider Jun 4, 2021 @ 4:00pm 
For a first playthrough it can be a long fight due to lack of experience, but the boss itself is quite easy and fast. Every boss in the game comes down to knowing its moveset, what to dodge/burst counter and when to attack and when not to.

What I normally do with Yatsu-no-kami:
  • Maintain distance from the boss and wait for it to send its snakes underground
  • Once it does, I run up to the boss and attack the two snakes while their heads are buried into the ground (they can be killed before the Dark Realm phase)
  • Once both snakes are dead, I stick to the boss and relentlessly attack it while occasionally dodging its 360 swipe attack along with grab attack.

Regarding her charge attack, I avoid burst countering it. Instead I just throw a shuriken at the head while it's slithering towards me and that stops it. If you don't have Ninjutsu, then either shoot at it with the bow or let it run its course.

Every boss is pretty challenging on the first experience, but once you've killed them a few times, some of them become pushovers while others become slightly easier to deal with. Yatsu-no-Kami is definitely in the pushover category.
Last edited by Crimsomrider; Jun 4, 2021 @ 4:05pm
JorgeJunior Jun 4, 2021 @ 4:11pm 
Originally posted by Crimsomrider:
... wait for it to sends its snakes underground... I run up to the boss and attack the two snakes while their heads are buried into the ground (they can be killed before the Dark Realm phase)
This makes a big difference.
I also suggest imbuing the weapon with lightning.
Sokurah Jun 4, 2021 @ 4:13pm 
I didnt noticed you can target the snakes when still attached to the body. No chance kill them when they are on the run i guess.

Well maybe i could have killed er faster but i still made it.
Fat Valentine Jun 4, 2021 @ 4:53pm 
Originally posted by Sokurah:
There is basically one safe opening, rinse and repeat.

Gee, I wonder if the fight is supposed to be tedious or if maybe you're playing the game wrong.

Aside from that, to be fair, the hitbox on the charge burst attack is pretty finicky. The easiest way to counter it is when he's lowering his head, right before the charge starts. If you always stay in front of the boss, that should be easy to do.
Last edited by Fat Valentine; Jun 4, 2021 @ 4:54pm
Sokurah Jun 4, 2021 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Fat Valentine:
Originally posted by Sokurah:
There is basically one safe opening, rinse and repeat.

Gee, I wonder if the fight is supposed to be tedious or if maybe you're playing the game wrong.

Aside from that, to be fair, the hitbox on the charge burst attack is pretty finicky. The easiest way to counter it is when he's lowering his head, right before the charge starts. If you always stay in front of the boss, that should be easy to do.

Well, one safe opening for my fighting style maybe. At least i didnt really found many more. and since everything in this game oneshots or stunlock you i was not in the mood to experiment 3 hours to find every safe moment and counter in a fight that wasnt compelling at all for me right off the bat and rather went for the safe way.

I mean badass players like yourself fight that snake two times and know all the moves and can beat her with one hand tied to your back apparently ;)
Fat Valentine Jun 4, 2021 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by Sokurah:
and since everything in this game oneshots or stunlock you

Block. It prevents the stunlock. Then you can instantly dodge away.
Last edited by Fat Valentine; Jun 4, 2021 @ 5:16pm
gungadin22000 Jun 4, 2021 @ 10:46pm 
Don't worry too much, Yatsu and Enenra are kind of gatekeeper bosses in this game and are, to me, the hardest by far, as you've not much experience in the game when you face them and they have loads of HP and can kill you in 1 combo if you mess up your blocking/dodging. Most bosses beyond this point are a lot more manageable.

As for the fight itself, I like Yatsu as a boss, but I've not really found many ways to beat her outside of what you describe: wait for openings and punish, most notably during her move where she shoves her snake-arms into the ground. Make sure to use sweeping attacks during this window so you hit both her arms AND body, as killing the arms, even when they are detached during the dark realm phase, will cause big damage. I agree with not trying to burst-counter her, as the timing is awkward, and you can just hit her when she slithers past you when she does her unicorn charge move. I also haven't had much success trying to circle around her to find openings - she loves PBAOE attacks, which will ruin your day.
Terotrous Jun 4, 2021 @ 11:10pm 
It's weak to lightning, so Lightning Talisman or Lightning Shot would help tremendously. Even if you don't know the Lightning Talisman spell, you've probably picked up a couple of the consumable ones that you can use. Antidotes are helpful too in case you get poisoned.

As the mission leading up to the boss is long, you'll probably have Yokai Shift available, use it towards the end of the fight to finish the boss off when its attacks become more dangerous.

As always, good gear also helps. Try fighting some revenants for purple equipment, or alternatively try tempering some of the purple gear you have to get good modifiers. You could also summon a blue revenant or two for the boss, having someone else to take aggro helps tremendously.
Last edited by Terotrous; Jun 4, 2021 @ 11:11pm
when i still used tonfas back on ps4, i didnt know i can remove the poison lakes. beat the snake by not trying to hit it during dark realm phase and instead just ran away until the end of dark realm phase to start the offensive once thats over. dodging the lakes, mini snakes, big snake and attacking at the same time with lowered ki regeneration was too annoying to handle back then.

Dark realm triggers on certain levels of enemy hp or when the bosses ki is depleted. if you never deal ki damage youll likely have to deal with 2 dark realm phases. if you deal ki damage then possibly more. later on the dark realm phase becomes their weakness as it allows staggering them but thats in dotw/dotn, right now you might not want to deal ki damage to bosses.

After the snake, the diffivulty will drop significantly, so dont get intimidated/frustrated, its really the last big hurdle for you to overcome. You might obviously die later on, but itll never feel as uphill ever again.
Sokurah Jun 5, 2021 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by Fat Valentine:
Originally posted by Sokurah:
and since everything in this game oneshots or stunlock you

Block. It prevents the stunlock. Then you can instantly dodge away.


I know that already but its still a bad habbit from other games to dodge away.


Thx for all the other comments. Like i said in my OP i already beat her.
Skyz Jun 5, 2021 @ 9:11am 
Originally posted by Sokurah:
Originally posted by Fat Valentine:

Block. It prevents the stunlock. Then you can instantly dodge away.


I know that already but its still a bad habbit from other games to dodge away.


Thx for all the other comments. Like i said in my OP i already beat her.

I thought the game was quite easy until i fought Yatsu-no-kami, i normally roll in games as well, so blocking her tail whip took forever to get used to and i had to rely on killing the snakes when they were underground to beat her. The only way too shorten yokai realm is to do a lot of ki damage. The game gets a bit easier after that fight, once you learn a bit more everything becomes a lot easier. I never struggled with another boss until the last one.
Last edited by Skyz; Jun 5, 2021 @ 9:11am
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