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Commissar Feb 23, 2021 @ 2:20pm
Magic/Dex build
Struggling to find info about how to build for this and if it even works going for both.

What kind of stat distribution should I be looking for when levelling up?
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Originally posted by JSY:
7p Omoikane's Grace for 40% Untouched Jutsu and +150 power for both

Then:
Marici/Tsukuyomi's Grace depending if you like feathers or orbs more, do note their untouched bonuses don't stack with Omoikane's
Onmyo Warrior for more onmyo attack and empowered
Flying Kato for more ninjutsu attack and empowered

30 is minimum, but aim for 150 for Ultimate Magic or Dexterity
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Dekardi Feb 23, 2021 @ 2:24pm 
both 30 for max capacity atleast
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Bithound Feb 23, 2021 @ 2:44pm 
Originally posted by Commissar Baxter:
Struggling to find info about how to build for this and if it even works going for both.

What kind of stat distribution should I be looking for when levelling up?

magic and dex?
Last edited by Bithound; Feb 23, 2021 @ 2:45pm
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Commissar Feb 23, 2021 @ 3:00pm 
Originally posted by ♨︎Samurai♨:
Originally posted by Commissar Baxter:
Struggling to find info about how to build for this and if it even works going for both.

What kind of stat distribution should I be looking for when levelling up?

magic and dex?

Yes as the title states
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PerfectLife Feb 23, 2021 @ 3:19pm 
Originally posted by Dekardi:
both 30 for max capacity atleast
200 is max capacity at 40 capacity.
30 is 30 capacity which is the most you will get without going over 100 in each stat.
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Commissar Feb 23, 2021 @ 3:34pm 
Originally posted by PerfectLife:
Originally posted by Dekardi:
both 30 for max capacity atleast
200 is max capacity at 40 capacity.
30 is 30 capacity which is the most you will get without going over 100 in each stat.

So do I stop at 30 and build into other stats or go as high as 200?

No one is really offering any guidance or advice on how to build a character.
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Just Aaron Feb 23, 2021 @ 3:39pm 
I think you might be going about it the wrong way. Magic and Dex isn`t a build. Your set bonus, Guardian Spirit, Soul cores, weapon selection, and the rolls on your armor are your build. Your core stats mean very little.
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Commissar Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by Just Aaron:
Your core stats mean very little.

Core stats determine what armour, weapons, active abilities, items and guardian spirits you use.

They are literally the core of the build, it's in the name. And anyway, doesn't have anything to do with what I'm asking. I can build the rest I just don't know about the allocation of the stat points.
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Just Aaron Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:32pm 
Not true. Adding +2 attack or +1 magic means nothing. What matters is your gear. That is your build. This isn`t Dark souls.
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Rasluka Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:39pm 
Originally posted by Commissar Baxter:
Originally posted by Just Aaron:
Your core stats mean very little.

Core stats determine what armour, weapons, active abilities, items and guardian spirits you use.

They are literally the core of the build, it's in the name. And anyway, doesn't have anything to do with what I'm asking. I can build the rest I just don't know about the allocation of the stat points.

You'd usually choose all those first, then build your stat points around it though, stat allocation comes last.

I wouldn't worry about a build if you're still in NG though, just put 30 into magic and dex and the rest into your main weapon skill and experiment to see what you like (you'll most likely have to choose between magic OR ninjitsu in the later difficulties). Gear is what matters the most and you'll be getting new better gear every mission until NG+.
Last edited by Rasluka; Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:45pm
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Farsha Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:41pm 
Your stats will do 10% difference in dmg compared to equiped gear gear, if even that in later stages of the game. So you are pretty fine spreading quite evenly early on, specially to reach soft caps in most stats, to get you character going.

https://tryrolling.com/nioh-2-stats-guide/

health, Ki, Ki regen, ki pulse ki regen, magic, ninjutsu, stayng at least B agility, are all more valuable then the miniscule dmg increase pushing ones stat early on too high.
Last edited by Farsha; Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:45pm
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Commissar Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:45pm 
Originally posted by Farsha:
So you are pretty fine spreading quite evenly early on specially to reach soft caps in most stats, to get you character going.
https://tryrolling.com/nioh-2-stats-guide/

Most of what I've seen from people in higher NG cycles recommend against spread stats.

I've already been over that guide, sadly it's from before the DLC so doesn't really help much apart from explaining the mechanics behind each stat which again, while nice to know isn't what I'm asking.

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Farsha Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:50pm 
depends how you play the game really.
Those sort of min max build are pretty boring to play mostly, as you usually are pretty limited in what you can do with them.

This might be one of best guys I've seen play and he does not care about stats at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOlIEYyTYQk&ab_channel=PooferLlama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytba1kQHnNQ&ab_channel=PooferLlama

But he plays the game as ninja gaiden, and actually on purpose reduces his dmg.
But man he's a skill beast.
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Commissar Feb 23, 2021 @ 4:53pm 
Again super cool, but has nothing to do with the topic.
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Deadoon Feb 23, 2021 @ 5:00pm 
For using omyou and ninjutsu combined early, go with 30-30.

You get 5 more points from a node on the grid, and the remaining 5 points for a total of 40 is from levels 100-200.

You get serious diminishing returns going beyond 30 or so in most stats. So a somewhat balanced build is going to work well in general.

You can make omyou work with only 30 points for quite a long time. If you use switchglaives or split staffs put in a bit more or focus more on the stats which you are suffering in. Courage will NEVER hurt you due to it being the ki regen primary stat. Similarly skill is a ranged weapon and ki pulse primary stat.

Originally posted by PerfectLife:
Originally posted by Dekardi:
both 30 for max capacity atleast
200 is max capacity at 40 capacity.
30 is 30 capacity which is the most you will get without going over 100 in each stat.
30 can get you up to 35 capacity. you only get 1 capacity for every 20 over 100. You get 5 of the 40 total from a node.
Last edited by Deadoon; Feb 23, 2021 @ 5:02pm
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Farsha Feb 23, 2021 @ 5:00pm 
To the topic.
I'd go and I did 30 dex / 30 magic for 30 + 5 (from skills) capacity on both.
Wouldn't go higher, unless you want to use a magic/ninja build or you use weapon that primarily scales with one of them.
30/30 means I have can use lot of talismans (extraction, divination, protectio, mainly) and I use ninjutsu for poison stuff (most bosses are pretty weak to it) and some other cheap tricks, for specific situations ( I farmed William for texts with paralyzis ground thing, made him even more trivial, and daidaras hands break with bombs for example)

Max capacity is 40 at stat lvl 200.
Not sure how or if dmg scales much.
But I think buffs (talismans, pills) last longer a bit with higher stats, but not sure how well it scales.
Last edited by Farsha; Feb 23, 2021 @ 5:08pm
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