are fist weapons and heavy armor stupid.

[Guldo]

the reason why i ask is because heavy armor causes you to use more ki for attacking so building up combos just doesnt seem like it works.

[MARADER]

Well, watch the weight of the gear. So that the level of mobility is B, or even better, that it is A. And you will not spend a lot of stamina.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by MARADER:

Well, watch the weight of the gear. So that the level of mobility is B, or even better, that it is A. And you will not spend a lot of stamina.

impossible to do on a heavy armor build where you are putting points in all stats evenly.

even if i put a truck load of points in stamina id be completely gimped in other areas.

i learned the hard way from nioh 1 to never listen to people that say go for b agility because its nigh impossible with heavy armor unless you are an absurdly high level.

its a fools errand because heavy armor is supposed to put you in C agility.

that is the way the game was designed.

[Kaluth]

I have 89% equip load and rocking fists and hatches because brute force your way to victory! I was using the spear and ochic for a while until I learned how wonderful fists and hatches are. But still use spears for the snake ladies and tengus, because ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I hate them so much.

[Citronvand]

Originally posted by Kenshiro:

the reason why i ask is because heavy armor causes you to use more ki for attacking so building up combos just doesnt seem like it works.

Maybe, I'm not sure as I've only briefly dabbled with fists. Perhaps if you used barrier talismans and or sacred water, Wise General's Pill box is also great as it gives faster ki regen on elixir use.

Try and combo into a yokai ability which lets you regen ki during the animation.

Lot of points into heart, courage and skill (max Ki, Ki regen & Ki pulse).

Faster Winded Recovery is pretty good when going C agility, alternatively Feral Burst Counter as you can still use it to dodge when you have 0 Ki.

I'm curious to know if you can get it to work.

impossible to do on a heavy armor build where you are putting points in all stats evenly.

What do you mean, I only need 320 stamina and 99 strength to have B agility with my heavy armor. 😂

[MARADER]

Originally posted by Kenshiro:

Originally posted by MARADER:

Well, watch the weight of the gear. So that the level of mobility is B, or even better, that it is A. And you will not spend a lot of stamina.

impossible to do on a heavy armor build where you are putting points in all stats evenly.

even if i put a truck load of points in stamina id be completely gimped in other areas.

i learned the hard way from nioh 1 to never listen to people that say go for b agility because its nigh impossible with heavy armor unless you are an absurdly high level.

its a fools errand because heavy armor is supposed to put you in C agility.

that is the way the game was designed.

Shhh, let me tell you a secret. Heavy armor sucks, which is in the first part and even more so in the second. Normal and pro players always use light armor))

[Angela™]

Originally posted by MARADER:

Originally posted by Kenshiro:

impossible to do on a heavy armor build where you are putting points in all stats evenly.

even if i put a truck load of points in stamina id be completely gimped in other areas.

i learned the hard way from nioh 1 to never listen to people that say go for b agility because its nigh impossible with heavy armor unless you are an absurdly high level.

its a fools errand because heavy armor is supposed to put you in C agility.

that is the way the game was designed.

Shhh, let me tell you a secret. Heavy armor sucks, which is in the first part and even more so in the second. Normal and pro players always use light armor))

*walks around in full heavy with B agi*

also the set bonusses are nice and i don't get oneshot by garbage offscreen :)

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Originally posted by Kenshiro:

Originally posted by MARADER:

Well, watch the weight of the gear. So that the level of mobility is B, or even better, that it is A. And you will not spend a lot of stamina.

impossible to do on a heavy armor build where you are putting points in all stats evenly.

even if i put a truck load of points in stamina id be completely gimped in other areas.

i learned the hard way from nioh 1 to never listen to people that say go for b agility because its nigh impossible with heavy armor unless you are an absurdly high level.

its a fools errand because heavy armor is supposed to put you in C agility.

that is the way the game was designed.

WTF you people are talking about jesus... im playing heavy fist from the begining spamming combos like a mad man and facetanking facerolling stuff....

all you need is 40-42 stamina and your in B agility and you never need to put another point into stamina ever again...

im doing this since the very begining... the ♥♥♥♥ you epople are doing...

Start game ignore all stats only focus on Stamina gets 40-42 then use Full heavy and start putting points in others and use fists... BAM suddenly feel godmode.

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Originally posted by MARADER:

Originally posted by Kenshiro:

impossible to do on a heavy armor build where you are putting points in all stats evenly.

even if i put a truck load of points in stamina id be completely gimped in other areas.

i learned the hard way from nioh 1 to never listen to people that say go for b agility because its nigh impossible with heavy armor unless you are an absurdly high level.

its a fools errand because heavy armor is supposed to put you in C agility.

that is the way the game was designed.

Shhh, let me tell you a secret. Heavy armor sucks, which is in the first part and even more so in the second. Normal and pro players always use light armor))

heavy armor actualy feels better in nioh 2 then in 1 and its reeeally stupid calling it bad when you can literally just face tank bosses thanks to it lol

[Angela™]

Also the only light armor set that's universally irreplaceable is the hayabusa set as most if not all light sets get outclassed tremendously by graces, and why in gods name would you roll graces on light armor in DOTN and onwards.

[Citronvand]

Originally posted by Zordrage:

all you need is 40-42 stamina and your in B agility and you never need to put another point into stamina ever again...

That must be some very light heavy armor. Which set? Mine weighs 40.5.

[lazymagpie]

Given how many revenants have light armor, I guess at least medium armor is advisable anyway. I did rock the Yoriki set for the entire first game cycle, feels very good to not get one-shot by random Gakis

[Zordiark Darkeater]

Originally posted by Citronvand:

Originally posted by Zordrage:

all you need is 40-42 stamina and your in B agility and you never need to put another point into stamina ever again...

That must be some very light heavy armor. Which set? Mine weighs 40.5.

warrior of the east

for fist its great gives A attack on constitution and life steal on Skill attacks...
the Beyond infinity is a reeeeeealy fast spammy skill the life steal bassicaly turns it into a large heal lol XD

[d i n k y ㅇㅅㅇ]

Yeah I noticed this too, you need so many points in stamina to make heavy work and everyone seems to think everyone asking has 40 points to waste in it. Not everyone is in ng. The only good thing I found is I can survive a few more trash hits but the difference feels really negligible compared to say a full medium. And then the best armour is using a spawn as a flesh shield, honestly.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by Karhrandras:

Getting B agility in heavy armor is very easy. Go ~40 Stamina and you can pretty much wear whatever you want. If you dont have the points for that, simply mix and match with something lighter. Or invest in stamina early, as it is one of the best stats in NG.

Im at 40 Stamina 20 Strength and I wear 4 pieces of Tatenashi and a Kodama Bowl, which puts me at 66,7%, so there's even room for a heavier headpiece once the Bowl has served it's purpose.

40 stamina to wear heavy armor and get B agility sounds like pure BS. sounds like to me someones wearing rogue armor and not a better set like tateneshi.

[Guldo]

Originally posted by Citronvand:

Originally posted by Zordrage:

all you need is 40-42 stamina and your in B agility and you never need to put another point into stamina ever again...

That must be some very light heavy armor. Which set? Mine weighs 40.5.

I was thinking the exact same thing.