Weapon tier list?

[walentaz]

I'm playing Splitstaff and I see no revenants with it. I see ton of Odachi and Switchglaives, followed by Hatchets, Kusarigama, Fists and spears.

This got me wonder - how much some weapons have better potential than others.

The most interested aspect I'd be interested in is tier list for end-game content (Underworld and late NG+s).

But maybe some are just bad early on and people avoid them.

If there are ppl who played it on PS4 already, how would you tier list Nioh 2 weapons and why (with some commentary). Ofc I now personal styles come into play, but lets try to leave that out of equation.

[skel]

people say splitstaff is better, but i have found on a onymo build the glaive is better only because of the moveset. the glaive in high stance with the right abilities can stagger even the extra large yokai and leave room to combo after, making it on par with odachi and hammers, but with dex weapon speed.

[BurkeyTurgerz]

Originally posted by Dargsy Wargon:

I haven't got to end game, but I have been hanging around this forum and looking stuff up online. From what I understand, splitstaff used to be a good weapon when it first got added but was later patched to death. And I hear that fist weapons at end game with a full skill tree absolutely destroys.

Maybe an exaggeration - one OP skill was turned down - and the weapons element application and anima regeneration were tweaked. The weapon is still great and super versatile.

[Dregora]

Honestly, what i've noticed about Nioh is that all weapons are viable. I know you said to leave it out of the question, but I truly, genuinely think that the differences are just really minimal.

If you had to rank them, I think weapon with a very fast moveset or combos that are fast hitting will probably rank as the top. That's just my personal opinion.


I think Odachi and Glaive are both on top because Odachi reminds me of the Claymore/Zweihander from Dark Souls, that both were found early and were also pretty good for noobies, Claymore more than Zweihander though.

I think the Glaive is just visually super appealing and reminds people of Bloodborne trick weapons.



But I think top 3 is like, fist weapons / odachi / glaive maybe?

[Hexagon]

If you not planning replaying higher difficulties than any weapon will do, it doesn't matter. However higher the difficulty the less build variety of you want to be op

[DarkFenix]

No two people ever agree on what the 'best' weapon is, it's generally regarded that they're all viable.

I'm greatly enjoying switchglaive so far, great reach, versatile moveset, and amazing combos. I think the only other weapons that can compete with it for me are odachi and spear, both have the reach and power, but the glaive combos better.

[Dregora]

Originally posted by Danon:

If you not planning replaying higher difficulties than any weapon will do, it doesn't matter. However higher the difficulty the less build variety of you want to be op

While this is true, doesn't every weapon have an OP build that is viable? That still makes all weapons viable. Sure some might be a bit better than others but, still. I can't imagine there are weapons that literally do not allow you to progress.

[Toshio]

"All Best" weapon in this game is glaive, best stats ever. Next is "immortal" tonfas, then staf and fists... but this is only matters on lvl's 200+ and green sets. For first run i think odachi, glaive (power stance) and dual axes are best. But really this game is like "ng - anything is ♥♥♥♥♥♥ but works", and after - "oh you got lvl 200 and all skills, so everything will obliderate!"

[walentaz]

Originally posted by Danon:

If you not planning replaying higher difficulties than any weapon will do, it doesn't matter. However higher the difficulty the less build variety of you want to be op

I'm planning to go until I get bored. In Nioh 1 I got bored around lvl 50 of abyss (a bit lower), so I'd intend to go all the way until I get bored.

But idk, I'm kinda annoyed by Ki issues on Splitstaff. There's basically Dragon Dance and nothing very good besides it. It takes long to start and eats Ki like crazy with no way to pulse back everything (because the longer you channel the less you can recover).

I loved Kusarigama in Nioh 1, so I picked splitstaff as it has spinning combos, but these feel so clumsy in comparison. I think I'll start respecing in Switchglaive or roll a new weapon from scratch. I'm not feeling the splitstaff with all those Ki issues. Maybe it gets better later on, but I don't think I'm gonna last that long before I go completely mad.

[Bishop]

Judging by general consensus on console forums it goes something like this:

Super broken tier: fist
Very good: odachi, two swords, switchglaive, post-nerf splitstaff (pre nerf it would be top tier)
Okish: pretty much everything else
BuT iTs ViAbLe: axe and hatchets, they don't get much love from developers for whatever reason.

[Patriot]

Katana seems pretty good but there defo is some merit to people using fist/claw weapons, those things are brutal.

[GrandTickler]

i wanted to do a splitstaff playtrough because the combo videos looked insanely cool, but then i played it and noticed it costs a ridiculous ammount of KI to get the combos off, and theres so much spinny stuff going on that half of the attacks miss their mark lol, i guess its meant to be used as aoe weapon? anyway wasnt a huge fan of it so i remade my char and went for odachi instead, where the cuts are easy to predict where they'll land, i feel like it does a lot more damage too

[AH-1 Cobra]

What's good about fists? Maybe it gets some OP spammable move that just destroys everything, but you definitely don't start the game with this. I got dumped on hard in situations I had no problem with using non-fist weapons, or weapons with better reach. Does fists get some kinda hadoken fireball move? If it gets something like that, I'd reconsider using it.

Fists are good at blocking, and relatively cheap on ki to attack, but there are obvious downsides, like the lack of reach, and the lack of AOE attacks.

I'm currently using a dex-magic build w/kusarigama. Got a couple of charms that give bonus damage to mobs inflicted with poison, so anything that's got a ton of HP, that allows me to burst it down quicker. Then I got ninjetsu power on gear + bomb or kunai damage on a few pieces as well. I got 2 tabs full of stuff to throw at mobs. How would fists be better than this early on? The last few areas I cleared, I barely used any elixers at all, in fact I got over 60 of them banked.

Nioh 2 definitely throws more elixers at you than Nioh 1 did, because I kill a lot of stuff that drops 2 elixers.

I tried fists 2 different ways. Used fists on a dex-ninja build, and also used fists on a heavy armor/tank type build, and both were worse than what I was using already.

[walentaz]

That's the thing - some weapons feel great early on, but fall off at endgame - others are quite hard to start with but get better as you glue a build components together and get enough stats.

I'm definitely ditching Splitstaff - at least for now. Tired of severe Ki issues in high stance which is the only with proper damage. Also Dragon dance is really hard to land unless target is still or cornered. Other combos seem to have rather mediocre damage.

[Tetsuya_Kurogane]

On first playthough just use whatever is the strongest weapon that dropped.
On my Courage based Lvl.350 Ps4 character I would use Axe and Tonfa.
I had a bunch of ''extra Yokai damage'' bonus and the Axe Mystic of increased power in the Dark Realm would make me obliterate those dark zone. Also heavy Ki damage paired on a Skill would crush anything standing
And Tonfa was the fast alternative. Fast strike to apply elemental status or poison. some really useful Skill. Never managed to acquire all of 'Great Hachiryô' Set. Was close to a have a strong Benzaiten Grace Set to abuse the 'Versatility' buff

[Justin]

All weapons are truly viable, although some have better success in the Depths of the Underworld than others (fists, apparently, are the best in this regard, but all can clear just fine).

You just have to play to the strengths of the weapon. For example: Is your weapon incredibly fast hitting? Maybe put an element on it, stack "x element accumulation" and "melee damage versus x element inflicted enemies." If it's a little slower, maybe focuses on Ki breaking.

I'd personally recommend staying away from the "OP Youtube build" videos that show people spamming one skill and insta-gibbing enemies. It takes the fun out of the game. Explore the different stats and what they do and find out what works best for you.