Yokai Counter Does nothing to snake boss

[jrubz]

I get it, you're supposed to do it at the right time, but it doesn't seem to do a think but let me dodge...
I really hate this mechanic as it isn't linked to core functions at all, it's tacked on to Yokai combat with no explination, and not being able to do it basically makes your fights 10xs harder...

[Fraktal]

Dodge it’s charge moves.

Only counter it’s downward move.

[Kashra Fall]

No explanation? It has an entire tutorial for each yokai form and its burst counter O.o.

Go to the dojo and it's all there. Long as you have a guardian spirit capable of producing the yokai form.

[Nito]

If you are saying dodge on counter i believe you are using feral right ? that you don't have to dodge but charge into the attack i have the same problem with phantom that is a block it just doesn't work with both and as far as i know it works with brute if you can allow yourself to take a hit...

[Kashra Fall]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nito:

If you are saying dodge on counter i believe you are using feral right ? that you don't have to dodge but charge into the attack i have the same problem with phantom that is a block it just doesn't work with both and as far as i know it works with brute if you can allow yourself to take a hit...

Feral the after image has to hit the attack, not you hit the attack.

Phantom is blocking at the right time, same as a timely guard which is tapping LB,L!.

Brute is standing there and doing the counter before hand, in which the animation causes you to be immune to staggers/take reduced damage and stop the attack.

[Nito]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kashra Fall:

Feral the after image has to hit the attack, not you hit the attack.

Phantom is blocking at the right time, same as a timely guard which is tapping LB,L!.

Brute is standing there and doing the counter before hand, in which the animation causes you to be immune to staggers/take reduced damage and stop the attack.

Why are you trying to teach me what i long know ?

On Feral you as Yokai form have to hit the attack with your face

Phantom is a block if you miss you take ki damage if you parry it's a counter

Brute is just you attack yourself to stop the enemy thing is many of the attacks can still damage you

[Kashra Fall]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nito:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kashra Fall:

Feral the after image has to hit the attack, not you hit the attack.

Phantom is blocking at the right time, same as a timely guard which is tapping LB,L!.

Brute is standing there and doing the counter before hand, in which the animation causes you to be immune to staggers/take reduced damage and stop the attack.

Why are you trying to teach me what i long know ?

On Feral you as Yokai form have to hit the attack with your face

Phantom is a block if you miss you take ki damage if you parry it's a counter

Brute is just you attack yourself to stop the enemy thing is many of the attacks can still damage you

Because you do NOT have to hit the yokai with your face. The after image of the feral form has to hit the attack. The reason rushing into the attack works, is you have the image behind you, the attack passes through you via iframes and hits the after image.

[Nito]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kashra Fall:

Because you do NOT have to hit the yokai with your face. The after image of the feral form has to hit the attack. The reason rushing into the attack works, is you have the image behind you, the attack passes through you via iframes and hits the after image.

The after image does nothing it is the feral form you are basically saying that if you dodge left with the right timing you can counter an attack coming from front and you obviously can't because the Feral form has to clash with the attack

[Kashra Fall]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nito:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kashra Fall:

Because you do NOT have to hit the yokai with your face. The after image of the feral form has to hit the attack. The reason rushing into the attack works, is you have the image behind you, the attack passes through you via iframes and hits the after image.

The after image does nothing it is the feral form you are basically saying that if you dodge left with the right timing you can counter an attack coming from front and you obviously can't because the Feral form has to clash with the attack

That's exactly how it works... How do you think you feral counter Tote Eboshi's scythe throw on dream of the demon? You literally rush through the scythe, but the counter does not activate until the scythe connects to the after image, which then warps you forward and finishes the counter. The game even tells you this O.o.

[Nito]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Kashra Fall:

That's exactly how it works... How do you think you feral counter Tote Eboshi's scythe throw on dream of the demon? You literally rush through the scythe, but the counter does not activate until the scythe connects to the after image, which then warps you forward and finishes the counter. The game even tells you this O.o.

Works exactly the same as Phantom when your character would be hit

The game also says you can Burst counter any enemy with any form now do Phantom Burst against Imagawa

[Thoughtzilla]

Opprinnelig skrevet av jrubz:

I get it, you're supposed to do it at the right time, but it doesn't seem to do a think but let me dodge...
I really hate this mechanic as it isn't linked to core functions at all, it's tacked on to Yokai combat with no explination, and not being able to do it basically makes your fights 10xs harder...

I've yokai countered successfully maybe 5 times the whole game, and I'm doing the Abyss and am halfway through Way of the Nioh right now...

I don't want to be one of those "SKILLZ" kids on these boards, but not yokai dodging and blocking instead is very doable, especially if you have the stamina regen to just overcome being winded.

[Fat Valentine]

The charge attack on the Snake is easily burst countable at the start when he moves his head to the ground. While he's doing the charge, it's significantly more difficult to get it right. On the higher difficulties you can't even burst counter that move anymore, so you can just learn to dodge it if you want. It's still useful to do it at the start of the animation though.

Opprinnelig skrevet av north:

yokai counter is broken and never works correctly. needs a patch.

Ayy lmao my dude

[Coin]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Fat Valentine:

The charge attack on the Snake is easily burst countable at the start when he moves his head to the ground. While he's doing the charge, it's significantly more difficult to get it right. On the higher difficulties you can't even burst counter that move anymore, so you can just learn to dodge it if you want. It's still useful to do it at the start of the animation though.

BTW you can counter it's charge with ANY attack. I'm pretty sure it's due to there being a glowing gold spot on it's head, so if you hit while it's charging at you, the Snek will flinch and cancel it's charge. Happened to me once or twice. Dunno if it works on higher difficulties though.

[big floppa]

I think there are some attacks that look like counter attacks, but actually cant be countered. i may be wrong tho lol

[la_nague]

Opprinnelig skrevet av big floppa:

I think there are some attacks that look like counter attacks, but actually cant be countered. i may be wrong tho lol

what you think of is attacks that the boss is channeling, those dont get you the counter when dodging/blocking. Only the red demon form can counter them by interrupting.


But the snake is not one of those, you can counter it, mostly at the start of the charge i think.

[Pnume]

Opprinnelig skrevet av The Orange and Blue Ninja:

Dodge it’s charge moves.

Only counter it’s downward move.

Actually his charge move is easier to counter.
Dodge when he comes the first time, run after him and when he hits a wall and start turning around he trigger another burst. That's when you need to use your burst counter. It's super easy to execute.