Do you have to do Sub missions to keep up in levels?

[WazzzUppp]

Could i just go from main mission to main mission and ignore the sub missions and not be under leveld ? Also , is there a reason to do sub missions? are there armors and wepons that can only be obtain there?

[Kintaro]

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[⭕TheSodaman]

Originally posted by WazzzUppp:

Do you have to do Sub missions to keep up in levels?
Could i just go from main mission to main mission and ignore the sub missions and not be under leveld ? Also , is there a reason to do sub missions? are there armors and wepons that can only be obtain there?

No for keeping up in levels. You can go from main mission to main mission for pure progression if desired. Your character level may technically fall behind, but your gear level and the +value of your gear level compensates for the recommended level you may see on a mission.

Some sub missions expand the blacksmithing facilities (blacksmith NPC will assign those).

Some sub missions offer emotes, onmyo/ninja locks (skill points), kodama, smithing texts, chances to get rarer smithing texts, chance to get hidden weapon skills, and/or achievements. Several rewards can be checked after selecting the mission, then navigating the additional pages to see if it has things like onmyo/ninja locks, kodama, or hot springs.

[Kintaro]

Originally posted by TheSodaman:

Originally posted by WazzzUppp:

Do you have to do Sub missions to keep up in levels?
Could i just go from main mission to main mission and ignore the sub missions and not be under leveld ? Also , is there a reason to do sub missions? are there armors and wepons that can only be obtain there?

No for keeping up in levels. You can go from main mission to main mission for pure progression if desired. Your character level may technically fall behind, but your gear level and the +value of your gear level compensates for the recommended level you may see on a mission.

Some sub missions expand the blacksmithing facilities (blacksmith NPC will assign those).

Some sub missions offer emotes, onmyo/ninja locks (skill points), kodama, smithing texts, chances to get rarer smithing texts, chance to get hidden weapon skills, and/or achievements. Several rewards can be checked after selecting the mission, then navigating the additional pages to see if it has things like onmyo/ninja locks, kodama, or hot springs.

if you do only main missions you will be like 30 level behind when reaching the last mission on the base game ^^. what you alking about ^^?

[Jouni]

Originally posted by //..Kintaro Oe:

if you do only main missions you will be like 30 level behind when reaching the last mission on the base game ^^. what you alking about ^^?

That's completely false. You gain more amrita from later missions. And level up cost also increases each time you level up so your level is pretty much tied to your progression in the game. Farming amrita by completing more early missions has almost no effect on what level you have later.

[Kintaro]

Originally posted by Jouni:

Originally posted by //..Kintaro Oe:

if you do only main missions you will be like 30 level behind when reaching the last mission on the base game ^^. what you alking about ^^?

That's completely false. You gain more amrita from later missions. And level up cost also increases each time you level up so your level is pretty much tied to your progression in the game. Farming amrita by completing more early missions has almost no effect on what level you have later.

my sentence is not an opinion ^^. just take a look at challenge runs which do only main missions and are underleveld all the time xD. totally a fact bro, sorry ^^.

EDIT: i could post you a proof, but you are smart enough to find some videos on youtube ;-D.

[Jouni]

Originally posted by //..Kintaro Oe:

my sentence is not an opinion ^^. just take a look at challenge runs which do only main missions and are underleveld all the time xD. totally a fact bro, sorry ^^.

Has your level ever been higher than the recommended level of the mission? I didn't pay too much attention to it but those times I did I remember my level always being lower. And I do all side missions when they appear on the map.

[Kintaro]

Originally posted by Jouni:

Originally posted by //..Kintaro Oe:

my sentence is not an opinion ^^. just take a look at challenge runs which do only main missions and are underleveld all the time xD. totally a fact bro, sorry ^^.

Has your level ever been higher than the recommended level of the mission? I didn't pay too much attention to it but those times I did I remember my level always being lower. And I do all side missions when they appear.

i personally was never higher level even though i did some side missions. but the level is not something you need to care about too much.

itemlevel is also different and way more important - i stopped looking at my level at some point.

[Jouni]

Originally posted by WazzzUppp:

Also , is there a reason to do sub missions?

It's content you have paid for when you bought the game. Why would you not play them?

[orthostatic]

Sub missions unlock various things, and also offer easier access to several bosses which players are incentivized to farm repeatedly. Much easier to, say, do a 1:1 with Yoshitsune a dozen times than it is to clear that whole mission half as much.

Plus, the boss fights are most of the game's allure. By putting many of them in side missions, they maximize your exposure to some of the most engaging fights. Then again, it's just as engaging to join a random and "Leeeroy!" the whole level on WotN. Sometimes you even survive, too.

[⭕TheSodaman]

Originally posted by //..Kintaro Oe:

Originally posted by TheSodaman:

No for keeping up in levels. You can go from main mission to main mission for pure progression if desired. Your character level may technically fall behind, but your gear level and the +value of your gear level compensates for the recommended level you may see on a mission.

Some sub missions expand the blacksmithing facilities (blacksmith NPC will assign those).

Some sub missions offer emotes, onmyo/ninja locks (skill points), kodama, smithing texts, chances to get rarer smithing texts, chance to get hidden weapon skills, and/or achievements. Several rewards can be checked after selecting the mission, then navigating the additional pages to see if it has things like onmyo/ninja locks, kodama, or hot springs.

if you do only main missions you will be like 30 level behind when reaching the last mission on the base game ^^. what you alking about ^^?

This is where I said your character level may technically fall behind, but your gear level and the +value of your gear level compensates for the recommended level you may see on a mission.

Example 1: First region, third story mission, recommended level 24. After finishing the second story mission, I happen to be level 18. With my gear, the mission says it's 3-sword difficulty. That doesn't seem like falling behind if the game's sword system is an indication. If I start to unequip pieces of my gear, the difficulty starts to go up to 4-sword.

Example 2: Third region, second story mission, Corpses and Ice has a recommended level of 65. My character's level is 42. With my gear, the mission says it's 3-sword difficulty. Same thing here, I start to unequip gear or intentionally wear lower level gear sitting in my inventory, difficulty goes up to 4-sword.

Check the 30 levels behind the last mission in the base game if that was your personal observation. Did that final mission say it was a 3-sword difficulty? If it was higher, were you sneaking past enemies or running by enemies? Not using spirit stones? Not updating gear after missions? Losing large amounts of amrita not collecting corpses? etc.

Side Note: On a side note for you, since I never know if you come back to threads you post in except this one, you can get Ninjutsu or Onmyo proficiency from consumable jutsu items such as a gunpowder bomb you found during a mission or a talisman you purchase from a Kodama shrine. It does not need to be jutsu solely from a readied jutsu item.

[PuppYofDOOM]

No. Just dont die. I plowed through main missions till wotn. I only did the blacksmith missions. And dojo ones

[Kintaro]

Originally posted by PuppYofDOOM:

No. Just dont die. I plowed through main missions till wotn. I only did the blacksmith missions. And dojo ones

how can you deny that speedruns do only main missions and are underleveld heavily. even if you kill some enemies on the way, it will only give you a couple of levels and not the 30+ level missing from the current mission level ^^.
u high ^^ ?

[⭕TheSodaman]

Originally posted by //..Kintaro Oe:

Originally posted by PuppYofDOOM:

No. Just dont die. I plowed through main missions till wotn. I only did the blacksmith missions. And dojo ones

how can you deny that speedruns do only main missions and are underleveld heavily. even if you kill some enemies on the way, it will only give you a couple of levels and not the 30+ level missing from the current mission level ^^.
u high ^^ ?

Don't you dare question PuppYofDOOM's royal Highness. They don't go spitting out misinformation in other threads or use speed runners as the standard. That's some high stance thinking right there. You want to use players who intentionally skip content in the main mission, don't need to or want to explore, barely visit poor Toyo, don't even scratch the scampuss, may not be using amrita stones, and clear one or more missions without spending their amrita, you know... like a player might do, then wonder why the game thinks they are underleveled?

Kintaro. Dosan's son. Are YOU in high stance right now? You use enough ^^ to give the Joker a run for the money. You may be in high stance if you believe that we're a bunch of speed runners here or that any of us should use the speed runner as a standard.

I do not know how many threads you have dropped misinformation or created some confusion, then just ignore it. I mean, we can't stop you, but Dosan-san's son sir, please... For the love of photo shoot mode to inspect Kasha to see what the View Illustration camera does not, please cease this blatant Kintaro-ism.

And no. No, I'm not in high stance or high ^^ since you seem so curious. Even though you haven't asked me yet. And no, I don't know where you can get dung balls.

[carnage]

I have kinda the opposite question. Is it worth replaying earlier missions to get more loot, kill enemies you missed, farm etc?

[Tauriz]

Originally posted by Mr_singah:

I have kinda the opposite question. Is it worth replaying earlier missions to get more loot, kill enemies you missed, farm etc?

Not really. Move forward is more efficiently, because the further you go (unlock different dreams) - the better the loot will be and the more you will receive amrita. The only thing you may need at NG aka Dream of the Samurai levels is grind bosses to get a text/skill from them. Also NG is good for getting missing achievments. I did every mission on NG+DLC simply bcuz i wanted to memorize the locations, learn a basic moveset of the enemies a little bit. After that i've cleared 2 or 3 regions on Dream of the Strong, moved to DotD, cleared 3-4 regions and moved to DotW, there i cleared a little more (i needed to farm some ethereal graces to prepare for DotN), 4-5 and moved straight to DotN.