Is this game as unfair as people say it is?

[Y2k Crispy]

Beat bloodborne and DS1, got to the end of DS3 and Sekiro but never finished. Im interested in picking up nioh 2 because of the price drop but not sure if i'll enjoy it

[cybercybercybercyber4]

it isnt unfair.
the only moment you might think its unfair is the third boss fight if you dont remove the poison pools, yeah spoiler, sorry. the first encounter with ippon deitara on the second mission might also lead to a death that feels unfair, but youll overcome that guy eventually.
Also there is always a shrine close to the boss fights, so you wont get punished too severly for losing. unlike in sekiro for example you can also outgrind every opposition.

[VonRaven 666]

it is not as hard as sekiro, but in many ways harder than ds3 if that helps you. its different though. its a really good game, so if you focus on the joy of playing and not "i HAVE to complete" you will have hundred of hours of fun. id say go for it.

[Y2k Crispy]

thx for the feedback guys, I'll buy it and give it a try

[Mander]

It remains harder than the games you’ve quoted until you understand and try to master the added combat mechanics Nioh 2 comes with, imo: Ki economy, ki pulse, stance switch and attack customizations should become your bread and butter asap.
That’s said, I don’t think Nioh 2 is unfair: challenging. Hard, maybe plagued with some RNG BS here and there, but not really unfair. For me, it has become quite addicting.
Happy hunting!

[BEOWULF]

People who are bad say that.

[gungadin22000]

It's a reasonably easy soulslike, but it's not easy. I've only played DS2, and I found Nioh 2 to be a lot easier than that, particularly because it is a lot nicer in giving you many "bonfires" to rest and save at than the DS games are. It has about 3-4 bosses that are frustrating, but I am bad at soulslikes and managed to beat the game without summoning help, so it's very doable for even mediocre players IMO.

[VeraelHasta]

It is unfair if you are stubborn and refuse to use the tools the game has.

Only unfair thing for me in the series were the double boss battles from Nioh 1. But there is no such thing in Nioh 2.

[Sokurah]

Every boss is unfair until i beat him 😁

Only finished the main game but i would not say its unfair. Its very punishing at some points and can be quite annoying sometimes.

But thats the way these games are.

If it feels unfair or cheap most likely you do something wrong or missed something. Try something else.

[Pudding]

Honestly, in my opinion it is actually more fair than the Dark Souls series. Specifically in its level design:

Dark Souls has more than a handful of scenes where you just yell "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!" at the screen because you literally had absolutely no way to identify and prepare against these - and your only way out is by memorization after each failed attempt (Sens Fortress anyone?). Nioh as a series on the other hand is very deliberate about this. You can easily spot all of the traps they set out for you if you are proceeding cautiously and attentative.

Most of the time I died through level design in Dark Souls I was just frustratingly calling out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Most of the time I died in Nioh I sunk my head into my hands and just whimpered "I am an idiot...".

[Elizabello]

Yeap Nioh 2 doesnt want to torture you. It has a lot of quality of life features dark souls lack.

[ApathicAlpaca]

You can pretty much decide yourself how hard Nioh 2 will be. For cheese mode, just summon the blue graves, if you don't want to 'cheat' that obviously (it's not a cheat, devs put it in game especially for beginners to get more forgiving experience) you can power yourself up no end with the right combination of ninjutsus (Ninja and/or magic), use guardian talisman liberally etc.
Or if you're a purist, it's possible to beat all encounters with only attacks, of course.

[VeraelHasta]

Originally posted by Pudding:

Most of the time I died through level design in Dark Souls I was just frustratingly calling out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Most of the time I died in Nioh I sunk my head into my hands and just whimpered "I am an idiot...".

I noticed this in my playthrough too. Sometimes I yell "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" but then add to it "why did I do this stupid thing, it's my fault". Only times when I feel annoyed with the game is these damn water holes in the floor. It is probably because of my bad eyesight but I die more from falling into the water than from enemies.

[Sokurah]

Originally posted by Gart:

Originally posted by Pudding:

Most of the time I died through level design in Dark Souls I was just frustratingly calling out ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. Most of the time I died in Nioh I sunk my head into my hands and just whimpered "I am an idiot...".

I noticed this in my playthrough too. Sometimes I yell "FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU" but then add to it "why did I do this stupid thing, it's my fault". Only times when I feel annoyed with the game is these damn water holes in the floor. It is probably because of my bad eyesight but I die more from falling into the water than from enemies.

I usually always blame the game but deep inside i know better. 😆

Sekiro and DS taught me "other ppl can, so can you". If you die yoz musst be doing something wrong.

Only real unfair things are rng or if the game dont give you what you need to win.

And yes beeing careful is a big part of these games.

Once i didnt had much health left but wanted to go on. "Oh just an Enki blocking the way, these are no thread abymore" he killed me😆

"No i'm not wasting a candle for that grave its there i can rush thru " ... drowned lost 600.000 🙄

If you dont run in like in AC where you can just kill a whole warcamp you should be alright.

[GrayHound]

I find all DS games piss easy and found Nioh 2 hard. I've had to learn to perfect bosses since they have so much health and I never wanted any online help.

The first playthrough was pure suffering, all the latter ones were pretty relaxing, including the highest difficulty.

Honestly, the difficulty curve is pretty crappy in the game. NG should be easier and WotN should be way harder.

[Hanzo]

Originally posted by Sossboy:

Beat bloodborne and DS1, got to the end of DS3 and Sekiro but never finished. Im interested in picking up nioh 2 because of the price drop but not sure if i'll enjoy it

I would say yes, and game also uses a lot of cheap dirty tricks. Because of some bad design there is no 'good' scalability for difficulty, except of those tricks. But it still has a lot of good things to offer especially if you like try different builds or have a friends to suffer with