Which ultimate skills you use the most

[***Deja Vu***]

I am wondering which one is the most common and effective from the best to the worst for ultimate skills on scroll.

Can't decide which one is good

[Douchebag Extraordinaire]

Love the constitution one for normal gaming (basically when things aren't one shotting you), paired with health with anima and other health stuff or even Honda clan for that 50% damage reduction on full health, and it's damn near cheating.

Courage is really good for some builds and when paired with Heart, it's pretty amazing. Heart is absolutely game changing if you're on the dot with your perfect ki pulses, there are some combos you can do over and over again without losing any ki. These two with a purity weapon all work together really well.

Strength, dex, magic, are more situational and personally, I wouldn't even recommend them since dex and magic dyad isn't too big of a deal. And Strength's ki pulse on block, while good on paper, can be produced with just a purity weapon.

[Mr.America]

It depends on what you want to do with your build... On their own, ultimates aren't neccessarily all that good, for example, ult. strength (+ki damage, ki pulse on block, extra ki recovery on purity weapons) doesn't sound all that good and so does ult. skill (perfect ki pulse bonus effects on any ki pulse), but you could combine the two and midstance block anything, ki pulse after, gain mid stance perfect ki pulse effect: no ki cost on the next block, and block the next attack even at near zero ki.

[Ginebra]

Ultimate magic because I'm running splitstaff.

[Storb]

Top:
Constitution (amazing survivability paired with life regen / leech effects and damage taken halved (unscathed) / -damage taken mid-attack)
Courage (VERY noticeable on ki-hungry weapons such as Fists or Tonfa, but is always useful)

Good:
Magic (basically guarantees you'll only need one, maybe two rebuffs in a boss fight; basically top tier but not as useful if you spam pew pew magic or if you speedkill bosses in 60 seconds)
Stamina (strong effect but requires you to build for 20% equip load or 350 toughness which can be tough)
Skill (great if you use Tonfa, eh otherwise especially since it doesn't stack with Extended Dodge Invulnerability)

Not as good:
Strength (ki damage bonus is only 10%, ki pulse on block w/o purity is ok)
Dexterity (Concealment doesn't buff feathers, the best thrown ninjutsu, so it is b00ty)

[JtDarth]

The most generally useful are constitution, heart, and courage. The others are more build specific.

[Shotgun Malise]

I believe Courage, Constitution and magic are my picks. You can have more on your scrolls if you can afford the stats.

On my scrolls I have Constitution, Magic, Courage, and Stamina.

I am a tank Onmyo user. And you will be surprised at how much damage I can do.

Read below for quick notes on my take of the ults.

Constitution

I have a tank build so this is lovely. Helps me with burns etc. This is by far the best one you want if you are going for an untouched build or unscathed.

If I have a star heal when using active skill it keeps me alive and in the regen phase.

Str

Use for Ki destroying builds

Courage

For aggressive fighters / long combos / big draining stamina moves

Magic

Is a must for any Onmyo user (untouched unmyo is your friend here)

Dex

Is a must for any ninja build (untouched Ninjustu is a must)

Skill

Some builds get more damage from dodging etc.

Heart

If you can keep switching weapons or are extremely good at flux then this is your friend for non stop attacks.

Stamina

I have a tank build, so I prefer not to be interrupted when I swing. Supposedly good for light armor users as well.

edit - added link to scrolls

https://nioh2.wiki.fextralife.com/Scrolls

[Leon]

Im close to currently finish my first pkaythrough ( actually on last boss but had to stop pkaying for rl stuff xd )

Now rhat i read about this topic and scrolls, do they get to be changed or once selected it is permanent?

P.S: i was always a hardcore fan of flowing shadow since nioh 1, and had ryu hayabuso dragon set with some modifications in nooh 1 to benefit as much as i can for sword only build as it was my only way to go with my style.

Now that nioh 2 system is different in skills ( weapon skill points and such ) im a bit concerned about scrolls if they were permanent once applied or can be changed.

Thanks

[JtDarth]

Автор сообщения: Leon

Im close to currently finish my first pkaythrough ( actually on last boss but had to stop pkaying for rl stuff xd )

Now rhat i read about this topic and scrolls, do they get to be changed or once selected it is permanent?

P.S: i was always a hardcore fan of flowing shadow since nioh 1, and had ryu hayabuso dragon set with some modifications in nooh 1 to benefit as much as i can for sword only build as it was my only way to go with my style.

Now that nioh 2 system is different in skills ( weapon skill points and such ) im a bit concerned about scrolls if they were permanent once applied or can be changed.

Thanks

Scrolls can be swapped out whenever. Scrolls themselves can have their bonuses changed by plaything through the scroll again. This can be done infinitely.

[Leon]

Автор сообщения: JtDarth

Автор сообщения: Leon

Im close to currently finish my first pkaythrough ( actually on last boss but had to stop pkaying for rl stuff xd )

Now rhat i read about this topic and scrolls, do they get to be changed or once selected it is permanent?

P.S: i was always a hardcore fan of flowing shadow since nioh 1, and had ryu hayabuso dragon set with some modifications in nooh 1 to benefit as much as i can for sword only build as it was my only way to go with my style.

Now that nioh 2 system is different in skills ( weapon skill points and such ) im a bit concerned about scrolls if they were permanent once applied or can be changed.

Thanks

Scrolls can be swapped out whenever. Scrolls themselves can have their bonuses changed by plaything through the scroll again. This can be done infinitely.

nice, tyvm

[Rock]

Автор сообщения: ***StepBrother***

I am wondering which one is the most common and effective from the best to the worst for ultimate skills on scroll.

Can't decide which one is good

Ultimate: Constitution, Courage and Magic. Rest is just flavor and placeholders.

Magic is build specific but Constitution and Courage are pretty much meta stats regardless of build. If you don't have those two stats sitting at 150 at least, you are doing some odd builds in my honest opinion. Not saying that you can't play the video game in the highest difficulty (Depths and whatnot) without those stats being 150 at least, but you are making your gameplay experience rougher.

Playing below 150 Constitution makes you more fragile than glass (and we are by default made out of glass) in end game so it's kinda given you sit at 150 Con at least. Also this sums the rest for Constitution:

Автор сообщения: Douchebag Extraordinaire

Love the constitution one for normal gaming (basically when things aren't one shotting you), paired with health with anima and other health stuff or even Honda clan for that 50% damage reduction on full health, and it's damn near cheating.

Ultimate Constitution is the cherry on top for becoming almost invincible. I mean end game still shreds you if you sneeze in the wrong time but with Honda clan or Oya + good HP bar and bunch of health regen and drains will top you back up to 100% so quickly that sometimes it almost feels you are invincible.

Courage on the other hand speeds up KI recovery when leveling up and the Ultimate gives you a good chunk of KI reduction when attacking. This is from wiki, haven't confirmed the numbers but it ''feels'' accurate to me: ''Reduces Ki consumption when attacking by 20.0% and weakens the effects of status ailments that slow down your Ki recovery by 50.0%''. Huge value.

KI bar is your primary health bar in Nioh. If you run out of KI during attacking or defending yourself, you are most of the time dead. Total actual HP and damage reductions, life regens etc are there to give you a chance to regroup yourself from your mistakes, but KI management = life and death in Nioh in my opinion.

Ultimate Magic is a no brainer if you are planning to use Onmyo in one way or another be it caster or spellblade.

[Turahk]

Автор сообщения: Rock

Ultimate Constitution is the cherry on top for becoming almost invincible. I mean end game still shreds you if you sneeze in the wrong time but with Honda clan or Oya + good HP bar and bunch of health regen and drains will top you back up to 100% so quickly that sometimes it almost feels you are invincible.

Courage on the other hand speeds up KI recovery when leveling up and the Ultimate gives you a good chunk of KI reduction when attacking.

Ultimate Magic is a no brainer if you are planning to use Onmyo in one way or another be it caster or spellblade.

Kinda sounds like con and courage can be skipped if using omnyo. Just pop ki regen and extraction, summon a familiar and you get so many buffs and debufss you barely take any dmg and regen ki almost instantly.

[Shakoris]

Ult constitution is useless on light armor builds. You are better off going ult sta, ult skill, or both.