attack new hive

[melita]

I was wondering if you attack the new hive does this keep you from being attacked? I did one so I could mine the hives, I noticed that it did not create any new insects. I guess should be asking would that help cut down the attacks that happen often.

[Actual Malice]

Sorry, no effect. I have had spawns of attackers right on top of or very near insect nests, though, which whittles down both the attackers and the nesting insects. Win-win.

[Bjørn]

What kind of equipment / weapons do you need to attack an insect nest / hive in the game? I haven't done that yet. Need a bit more than bows and t-shirts, I presume?

Hope it's ok to borrow the thread a little

[Ruffio]

Originally posted by Bjørn:

What kind of equipment / weapons do you need to attack an insect nest / hive in the game? I haven't done that yet. Need a bit more than bows and t-shirts, I presume?

Hope it's ok to borrow the thread a little :lunar2019smilingpig:

You can kinda solo them in a combat mech easy. -)

[Actual Malice]

Depending on your skill at kiting, one railgun can do it. Two makes it much easier.

[Bjørn]

Originally posted by Actual Malice:

Depending on your skill at kiting, one railgun can do it. Two makes it much easier.

That doesn't sound too bad, thanks. There are 3 nests right next to each in my current game, just over a hill. Looks tempting. I thought it was a late game thing to take them on.

[Seelander]

the safest way is problably someone with speed such as talas, laara and simon, but others can get the job done as well.

[Seelander]

Originally posted by Bjørn:

Originally posted by Actual Malice:

Depending on your skill at kiting, one railgun can do it. Two makes it much easier.

That doesn't sound too bad, thanks. There are 3 nests right next to each in my current game, just over a hill. Looks tempting. I thought it was a late game thing to take them on.

Think it depends on you having carbon armor as a breakthrough, would deff go at them early if i had that breakthrough. Problably also not a bad call to do if on sow and sell, selling carbon early game, if you have that sniper that is, you can have it in roughly 10 days self produced i guess or wait to see what scanvenges brings. Otherwise i would only go for it around mid-late y2, not sure on military though could be nice to have carbon cover from those fliers as they come as early as day 3.

[Actual Malice]

Originally posted by Bjørn:

... I thought it was a late game thing to take them on.

You do need Crafting 5 (no failure at 8) to make Carbon Armor and Construction 5 to make carbon rooms (although carbon turbines do not have a minimum), so it might not do you much good to ransack nests too early. On the other hand, the stuff doesn't spoil -- and it can take some time to observe, mine and then carry thousands of nanotubes back to base -- so perhaps the earlier the better. :)

[Seelander]

yeah dont think you should worry about lvl 8 to much in regards of failing, if you fail it 25% tops and means they only last 2 years instead of max 4 and your lvf 5 crafter will explode in lvl as soon as they get armor going, but especially on the trade scenario that strat has it advantages simply selling it for fast cash so you can add a crew fast.

[Actual Malice]

Originally posted by tommy_b_schmidt:

... Probably also not a bad call to do if on sow and sell, selling carbon early game, if you have that sniper that is, you can have it in roughly 10 days self produced i guess or wait to see what scanvenges brings. ...

Glad you brought this up. A stack of nanotubes is a great way to get the Quick Money achievement (at least 200k Galacticoins in one trade). And you definitely cannot get nanotubes fast enough in the Trading scenario. The first two ships took nanotubes, but I only had them mined in time for the second. If I had had them when the first ship came, I would have finished the scenario in about 25 days.

As it was, it was another six to ten ships before another one bought nanotubes (many of them would sell, but not buy nanotubes).

[Seelander]

my best was some 165K on first ship on insane/chaos, basically ran around the entire map with laara and vicente harvesting cloth.. problably worth not farming to get the fast money so you can recruit faster should give you the time back from lost planting. also allows you to get cement, bricks or metal alloys preferly on day 5 from trading not having to worry about scrap for quite a while, Cloth is best harvested between day 4-6, but problably can do just fine having some 85K recruiting 2 more for half a yeer and build up an economy.

[Seelander]

Do think cloth should be adjusted makes it to easy when you get 85 pr unit. take bandages you get some 350 or for each of those and they take 4 cloth (85*4 = 340) meaning its not worth crafting bandages to sell.

[Seelander]

think you can buy the planet in less than 20 days really.

[Bjørn]

Originally posted by Actual Malice:

Originally posted by Bjørn:

... I thought it was a late game thing to take them on.

You do need Crafting 5 (no failure at 8) to make Carbon Armor and Construction 5 to make carbon rooms (although carbon turbines do not have a minimum), so it might not do you much good to ransack nests too early. On the other hand, the stuff doesn't spoil -- and it can take some time to observe, mine and then carry thousands of nanotubes back to base -- so perhaps the earlier the better. :)

Thanks. I don't have the carbon armor breakthrough, but done several discoveries on expeditions. One of them was the nests and the animals there, got them all at the same time, so I don't have to observe. Can just go mine.

Seems like the nests are protected by about 10 small insects and one bigger. Or do many more insects appear when we attack them?

I watched a few of the small ones take out an Ulfen that ventured too close to the nest yesterday. Was killed almost instantly...

I've found a railgun, and just finally found a power core and have researched laser pistols, and also recently synthetic armor, so might give it a shot today! Just started year 2, so no need to rush, I guess. 5 survivors so far.

[Actual Malice]

More shriekers do not appear. What you see is what you get.

You know that point in a game when you finally achieve some critical goal and you can suddenly sense success? For me, it's always that first railgun. Got one on my very first scavenge once. Game over.

Best of luck. Let us know of your glorious victory. :)