Berries

[Dracon]

How do you get Berries if you don't have Rita or Berries on your map? You do need them to tame Ulfen, so I at least hope there is some way.

[Jaggid Edje]

Someone told me that they ARE on the map, somewhere, when I said I had a map with no berries. They might just be really far away.

I don't know if that is true or not, as I never did find them.

[Flin Fredstone]

There probably are berries somewhere far away on your map. But if not, it's not just Rita that finds things on expeditions. You can get manure observed and used from Ulfens in the wild near your camp if that is the fuel source you're after.
For now your fuel source will be grain-oil-fuel or if you have the tech, bug meat-fuel,

[Cotaks]

Special spots of water have berry plants (very rare), 99% of the maps have berry bushes.

[Dracon]

Originally posted by Flin Fredstone:

There probably are berries somewhere far away on your map. But if not, it's not just Rita that finds things on expeditions. You can get manure observed and used from Ulfens in the wild near your camp if that is the fuel source you're after.
For now your fuel source will be grain-oil-fuel or if you have the tech, bug meat-fuel,

I do have a berry plant on the map, but I think those are beef berries. - I know how they look though and already checked the entire map.

And isn't it just Rita? I do run with Daniel, Jack, Katina, Sora Talas and Vincente... Suddenly I start rueing taking Vincente over Rita this time... Not only does she get along well with Jack, she does pretty much everything Vincente does and more.
Minus the trade thing, but that's useless in the military scenario anyway.

Originally posted by Cotaks:

Special spots of water have berry plants (very rare), 99% of the maps have berry bushes.

I just realize I should have been more specific. I'm looking for the fruit berries. I did find beef berries while searching though.

[Flin Fredstone]

I think Vincente has a good chance of finding plants too on expeditions because of his green thumb. Not sure though.

[Dracon]

I have wine making in my researches list, by that logic I should have fruit bushes on the map.
I already checked everywhere though, no fruit bushes :/ - also no grain cob.

[Jaggid Edje]

I have been lucky discovering new plants on expeditions by just sending out my person with the highest farming skill on exploration expeditions.

[Dracon]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

I have been lucky discovering new plants on expeditions by just sending out my person with the highest farming skill on exploration expeditions.

Was that person Rita though? Because she has a special skill that helps her discover things.

[Jaggid Edje]

Originally posted by Dracon:

Was that person Rita though? Because she has a special skill that helps her discover things.

No. I have yet to play a game with Rita in my colony.

[Elgar]

Originally posted by Dracon:

Was that person Rita though? Because she has a special skill that helps her discover things.

Maki has the same ability (although I always choose Rita).

[Jaggid Edje]

I have not used Maki or Rita for expeditions. The one I've sent out has no such ability, only a very high farming skill, and she has discovered plants on 2 out of 3 expeditions so far in my current game. Her only special abilities are "Seasoned Farmer" and "Exquisite Cook".

I'm not saying her farming skill makes any difference, btw. I may just have been very lucky twice. :)

[Bjørn]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

Someone told me that they ARE on the map, somewhere, when I said I had a map with no berries. They might just be really far away.

I don't know if that is true or not, as I never did find them.

It's perfectly possible they aren't on the map. I used an Excel spreadsheet someone posted (which I can't find anymore!) where all the important things for each seed was listed, along with which breakthrough techs and such.

Several of the seeds were lacking one or more of the plants considered important, so readers could plan their games accordingly.

There are only 2 huge maps in the game (the green world and desert world), and the seeds decide where on those maps you start out, and you have access to a limited area around that position. So no guarantee that all the plants and resources will be in range of that starting area.

[Jaggid Edje]

Thanks, @Bjorn! It's good to understand the inner-workings of these things.

And it makes me feel better that maybe those berries just simply weren't anywhere on the map. That theory beats me just being too dense to locate them. :)

edit: Also, a spreadsheet like what you mention is referenced in this post. Your comment was the first I had heard of it, but I put my superior search parameter skills to the test to locate it just now. The spreadsheet link is still valid.

[Bjørn]

Originally posted by Jaggid Edje:

edit: Also, the spreadsheet you mention is referenced in this post. Your comment was the first I had heard of it, but I put my superior search parameter skills to the test to locate it just now. The spreadsheet link is still valid.

Incredible! I spent a long time searching for it myself a while back, so I assumed it had been taken down. And here you find it in seconds... Thank you!

Although I think the seeds were changed in the new release, making the breakthrough techs invalid, unless they've kept updating the spreadsheet.

[Dracon]

Is this actually official? At least it's not in the Avant farmer description that they can find plants.