Remove Cold Snap.

[LeftPaw]

If you are have things such as cold snap in the game then please fix the f***** temperature mechanic first. It is so messed up.
-21 inside with 4 stoves, -16 outside
4 bedrooms exactly the same apart from temp, one room is -21 and the ones next to it -6
In front of a heater is colder than a snowman.

This is everywhere the temp mechanic is broken as f****. Please remove situations involving temperature until it fixed.

You see all this should have been addressed before adding more to the game. At this rate it's just going to become more and more broken.

[Rockoloco]

Never had anyone die of hypothermia, just put 2 heaters in the rooms facing the beds, in bigger areas use heaters and a fireplace or the other thingies that burn wood, use a thermostat to save energy when heat is not needed and that's it, you can survive even wooden constructions. I just played and had a couple extreme cold snaps and indoors was 15°. I don't see anything broken in the temp mechanics.

[GOG]

Originally posted by Rockoloco:

Never had anyone die of hypothermia, just put 2 heaters in the rooms facing the beds, in bigger areas use heaters and a fireplace or the other thingies that burn wood, use a thermostat to save energy when heat is not needed and that's it, you can survive even wooden constructions. I just played and had a couple extreme cold snaps and indoors was 15°. I don't see anything broken in the temp mechanics.

Agreed.

[DayWalker]

Originally posted by Rockoloco:

Never had anyone die of hypothermia, just put 2 heaters in the rooms facing the beds, in bigger areas use heaters and a fireplace or the other thingies that burn wood, use a thermostat to save energy when heat is not needed and that's it, you can survive even wooden constructions. I just played and had a couple extreme cold snaps and indoors was 15°. I don't see anything broken in the temp mechanics.

Agreed.

[LeftPaw]

Originally posted by Rockoloco:

Never had anyone die of hypothermia, just put 2 heaters in the rooms facing the beds, in bigger areas use heaters and a fireplace or the other thingies that burn wood, use a thermostat to save energy when heat is not needed and that's it, you can survive even wooden constructions. I just played and had a couple extreme cold snaps and indoors was 15°. I don't see anything broken in the temp mechanics.

No you don't understand. Sometimes even if they are sat on a pile of heaters they will suffer from hypothermia. I am checking out the temps that the game is giving me. Small room with heating can be lower temp than outside by a large degree. Like I said , well heated room -21. outside -16.
The game get's it's temp totally messed up, not all the time of course but quite often.
Larra was suffering from life threatening hypothermia, so I take her inside to the heater, she died, it was then that I checked to find the heat inside was well below that out side and this happens on a regular basses.

It also works the other way. I have a freezer room that runs at -9 -10 but sometimes when I hover over it the temp shows something like indoors +24.

It's there in your face. The game is calculating the temps wrong.

[Martin]

Cold Snaps don't need to be removed. The heating distance of fireplaces and stoves needs to be fixed so it works better.

[Paraleo]

or turn the air conditioners the other way

[Joe Coffee]

Are you making your rooms out of cheap materials? I'm assuming you're not and are spending on wood or stone which has greater insulating properties. If you're using sticks, they're gonna be like Jack from the Titanic movie.

It will help if you also start making warm clothing from the get-go, like fur coats and beanies at least, the full ensemble if you can, for everyone.

Just sayin'. Could be cold Thanos snap is just freakin' broken and hopefully the dev will see your gripe.

[LeftPaw]

Originally posted by Martin:

Cold Snaps don't need to be removed. The heating distance of fireplaces and stoves needs to be fixed so it works better.

They are never going to work properly while the system is messed up. There also should be a overlay showing temps clearly, as it is it's all guess work.

[Martin]

Yeh I agree with that, like the line of sight overlay for combat.. showing where is warm/hot where is cool/cold without having to mouse over. And yes, make internal rooms from wattle stick walls, not wood or stone.. they have worse insulation and use the vents, they really do help spread the heat. Also it heats up gradually after lighting a fire etc.

[LeftPaw]

It's dead easy to check. Just hover around checking the temps especially in hot and cold periods, some of your finding should be bonkers and have you scratching your head.

[Martin]

yeh like a drop of -4 between 2 tiles next to each other.. i know, i've looked at it, just make more efficient rooms.

I have a mate who tried to build the perfect base, using mathematics etc and he was crying that it should work and there's no excuse for this and eventually quit the game.

I just add stoves until it's warm.

At the moment tho the game is utterly broken.

The attack waves are exactly the same in Easy as they are in Insane.. just different numbers. But they occur every 2 ingame days more or less. Same with the weather events, you can get extreme cold or heat or the ash clouds on easy as often as insane.. in my medium game I had ash, Extreme cold, extreme cold, severe cold, ash.. when the game could have given me rain, rain, sun, rain and sun... then there's all the little glitches like stuff getting stuck, benchs not working, the ai not obeying instructions (outside of specific issues) there's alot of broken in the game.

Not to mention some people crashing alot either during saving or trying to reload or just time delayed memory loops or holes..

[Joe Coffee]

I'm going to ask. Politely.

Are there actual dedicated floors under your structure?

I tried to be "cheap" by just making a giant housing area using original shelters from the camp tab, and then when I got construction basics, I then added wood walls, doors, and windows to the areas that did not compose an outer wall. Despite using heating stoves and fireplaces, it still got very cold inside until I remembered I hadn't closed windows. After I did, the inside temperature rose a small bit, it was definitely better than outside. But dirt grounds aren't good at all.

So try using basic construction at least, and putting full-on-wood flooring or use up stone, full-on rooms with a roof, and then put some carpeting or floor coverings of choice so your colonists won't get Cave Dweller negative happiness out of it. Stay away from using sticks because it literally says awful insulating properties in the construction tab.

And if you're already doing all of that, let me say sorry in advance. Maybe the game is bonkers and your gripe is super legit.

[LeftPaw]

It's true, the game needs a darn good overhaul to get things working as they should. If they keep plopping stuff on top of broken code disaster will strike.

[LeftPaw]

Originally posted by The Jerker:

I'm going to ask. Politely.

Are there actual dedicated floors under your structure?

I tried to be "cheap" by just making a giant housing area using original shelters from the camp tab, and then when I got construction basics, I then added wood walls, doors, and windows to the areas that did not compose an outer wall. Despite using heating stoves and fireplaces, it still got very cold inside until I remembered I hadn't closed windows. After I did, the inside temperature rose a small bit, it was definitely better than outside. But dirt grounds aren't good at all.

So try using basic construction at least and putting full-on-wood flooring or use up stone, and then put some carpeting or floor coverings of choice so your colonists won't get Cave Dweller negative happiness out of it.

And if you're already doing all of that, let me say sorry in advance. Maybe the game is bonkers and your gripe is super legit.

I only use dirt for stockpile shelters or gun turrets. Other than that it's usually wood on wood, stone on stone. I never bother with windows, no point. What you gain in a hot spell in not worth the effort, I just bung in as many ACs as necessary.

Don't get me wrong, most times it's fine, inside warm, outside cold. It's when it not that's the problem.

[Rogue]

There's cold snap and there's extreme cold snap. Same thing for heatwave, two versions. Both easily manageable. Even Daniel who is susceptible to either survived "lethal" frostbite or heatstroke during -55 and +55 situations...

Proper windows handling, close/open and building construction and even day/night scheduling helps... Then of course clothing help, Daniel even fully clothed in winter clothing only manage up to -51C.

If all else fails , use an air-con( despite its name, it can maintain a fixed temperature for a 3x3 room easily, whether it's -6 or 20 ahem no windows or keep them closed) If your room is 9x9, use 3 of them( remember they sucks 14w of power each)