Do heaters even work???

[Bovin Khan]

Like seriously, i have to place a heater (electric) every 5 square feet to even keep the temp to a normal temp.... There is a MAJOR bug with indoor temps right now. Half my colony is dying even tho i have more then 10+ heaters going.....

[PocketAces]

Originally posted by Tolodociro:

The question is where to put the thermostat?
You have one dining room and six 3x3 bedrooms, each one with one heater.
Where do you put the thermostat? Do I need 2?

You would need two, one in a small room and the other in the large room.

[jojobe]

The heating is messed up. You need to have a heater in each room because the heat does not spread out even with no door. the hall could be 70 and the rooms right beside it freezing.

[Luvz]

What clothes do you have? I barely pay attention to temp and my survivors always survive Winter with virtually no management.

[wcbarney]

Originally posted by jojobe:

The heating is messed up. You need to have a heater in each room because the heat does not spread out even with no door. the hall could be 70 and the rooms right beside it freezing.

There are vents which supposedly let air pass between rooms.

[Boothy]

I just skip the electric heaters. They only heat the immediate area (radiant heat only I guess). Whereas AC heat (or cool) the whole room).

For me early game, only bedrooms and a small room with a table for eating get any heating, and this is the small wood burning stoves.

I leave all workbenches and early storage outside, under shelters, so no heating at all. Everyone warms up when they eat or sleep. Cold snaps are the only real issue initially, but you can Draft people and stand them next to a heater or camp fire to help with this early on.

I focus on making sweaters for everyone (like immediately), then winter hats. After that I try to rush to synthetic armour. The armour wears out slower than regular clothing, so it's easier to keep on top of (taking Vivien also helps).

Once everyone is in synthetic armour, temperature basically becomes a non issue.

I've only moved my workshop inside once I've got carbon buildings and AC (and lots off power available).

[wcbarney]

Originally posted by Boothy:

...I leave all workbenches and early storage outside, under shelters, so no heating at all. ...I've only moved my workshop inside once I've got carbon buildings and AC (and lots off power available).

Man, I do just the reverse! All workbenches inside ASAP, plus all fermenting barrels, oil presses, electric furnaces inside. I do have a very large house.

[*Gr!zzl]

go for a wooden or carbon exterior home, with sticks inside walls. place air vents and fans to help with the flow of the heat

[Boothy]

Originally posted by wcbarney:

Originally posted by Boothy:

...I leave all workbenches and early storage outside, under shelters, so no heating at all. ...I've only moved my workshop inside once I've got carbon buildings and AC (and lots off power available).

Man, I do just the reverse! All workbenches inside ASAP, plus all fermenting barrels, oil presses, electric furnaces inside. I do have a very large house.

Each to their own :-)

I'm in year 11 of my current game and I only just moved the last of the crafting benches and storage in-doors over the last year or so. Was all still outside in wood shelters I'd build in the first year. So they've worked in the dark and cold for like 9 years :-)

Only thing I'd moved earlier was cooking. And those original shelters only got dismantled about half a year back, space now reused for an expanded living quarters.

[wcbarney]

Originally posted by Boothy:

Originally posted by wcbarney:

Man, I do just the reverse! All workbenches inside ASAP, plus all fermenting barrels, oil presses, electric furnaces inside. I do have a very large house.

Each to their own :-)

I'm in year 11 of my current game and I only just moved the last of the crafting benches and storage in-doors over the last year or so. Was all still outside in wood shelters I'd build in the first year. So they've worked in the dark and cold for like 9 years :-)

Only thing I'd moved earlier was cooking. And those original shelters only got dismantled about half a year back, space now reused for an expanded living quarters.

Agree -- each to their own. My most recent game lasted 3 1/2 years before I abandoned it yesterday. I had reached 8 survivors, did the research for meat printing & wasted 5 liquid fuels to print 1 raw red meat (of which I had about 2,000 in my freezers) and sent one of the survivors home in a rescue pod from the orbiting spaceship. So, having earned all the "Achievements," I decided to go play the new version of "Foundation" for awhile until there is an updated version of "Alien Dawn" available.

[Dako]

So dumb, never works.

[barusa]

Originally posted by Tolodociro:

The question is where to put the thermostat?
You have one dining room and six 3x3 bedrooms, each one with one heater.
Where do you put the thermostat? Do I need 2?

That is a great question! I had separate buildings, wondering the same question.

The answer is easy, put the thermostat outside.

It really doesn't matter what the precise temperature is in each room or even each building. It just matters that it is cold outside, which makes the rooms cold. One might argue my method is imprecise, but it is an easy fix and only requires one thermostat to be built.

Another trick... Due do to heater not having a thermostat.

Set the thermostat sensor's temperature low enough to trigger the heater. Set the inactive circuit to the AC. Set the AC temperature at a much higher cooling value. This will create a temperature range in which both the heater and AC will be off.

[flo125]

when i use thermostat i dont put it near to the heaters, so that it can mess the general temperatur, by moving your mouse everywhere in your house you can figure the variations of warm inside the room. also, did you use the air valves to connect rooms?

[OverThere]

You can also install an air conditioner in reverse, with the heat side going into the interior and the cold side going outdoors. Air conditioners generate a lot of heat.

Since you only want the air conditioner to work when the interior temperature is below what your people can tolerate, attach it to a thermostat on the other side of the room that triggers at, say, 4°C. Set the air conditioner itself for -10°C (the lowest setting) so that when it is on it will frantically pump large amounts of heat into the room as it tries to cool the outdoors to -10°C.

The only problem is when it gets colder than -10°C outside...

[Zep Tepi]

The AC does both heating and cooling, no need to turn it backwards.

Fireplaces work much better than electric or even wood heaters, though if the cold snap is extreme enough you still might want to put the beds as close to it as you can. Heaters do seem pretty useless.

Once you have synthetic armor, there's no need to worry about it either way.

I do think the temperatures in this game need a rebalance. They are crazy all over the place, but luckily our survivors are all genetic mutants, not just Sora, and the synthetic armor is over powered enough to make up for it. I mean, a straw hat isn't going to fix the problem when it goes above 120F outside IRL.