Custom Starter mechanics

[Orange Crowe]

If i want to increase the chance of custom starter proc, do i go

custom starter or custom starter
-move i want- custom starter
custom starter custom starter
-move i want- custom starter
custom starter custom starter
-move i want- custom starter
custom starter custom starter
-move i want- -move i want-

[Doca]

Custom starter ONLY works on the active move below. Stacking two custom starters has no additional effect.

That being said, if you only want your monster to have a SINGLE move that goes off several times immediately, then you might as well just fill it with RANDOM starter instead ! The chance for random starter to go off is calculated on its own, and THEN it choses an ACTIVE skill. This means that giving a monster a single move + filling the rest with random starters makes every random starter (that goes off) use that specific move, there's no chance of a random starter activating another random starter and wasting its own activation.

[TwilightDusk]

As Doca said, you can't stack multiple Custom Starter stickers on the same move, you'd have to have extra copies of the sticker you want and go like:

Custom Starter
<Move>
Custom Starter
<Move>

And then you'd only have 4 slots left for other stuff.

As Doca also said, if you want to dedicate a beast to switching in and then doing the same move multiple times, and you don't care about having other moves on that beast, you can slap one copy of that move and then seven Random Starter stickers, and each Random Starter will have its chance to proc with only your one active move to choose from.

so it depends on what exactly you're trying to do.

[Orange Crowe]

Originally posted by Doca:

Custom starter ONLY works on the active move below. Stacking two custom starters has no additional effect.

That being said, if you only want your monster to have a SINGLE move that goes off several times immediately, then you might as well just fill it with RANDOM starter instead ! The chance for random starter to go off is calculated on its own, and THEN it choses an ACTIVE skill. This means that giving a monster a single move + filling the rest with random starters makes every random starter (that goes off) use that specific move, there's no chance of a random starter activating another random starter and wasting its own activation.

Thanks i havent gotten a random start

[fluffy buny]

there does appear to be a bug where using multiple stickers like Custom Starter and Critical Mass can activate the topmost one multiple times instead of activating each one

i discovered it when trying a moveset like this:

Custom Starter
Glitter Bomb
Custom Starter
Smack

this caused Custom Starter: Glitter Bomb to activate twice instead of activating Glitter Bomb and then Smack

my workaround was to replace one of the Custom Starters with a Rare version, so I think what causes this bug is when you use identical (stacked in inventory) copies of Custom Starter/Critical Mass/etc. the game decides to use the first one in the list whenever the rest of them proc

[TwilightDusk]

That's interesting. If you feel like experimenting, does something like:

Custom Starter
Glitter Bomb
Custom Starter
Custom Starter

Work to activate Glitter Bomb multiple times? or does it look like the additional Custom Starters need to meet the requirement of having something valid beneath them?

[fluffy buny]

Originally posted by TwilightDusk:

That's interesting. If you feel like experimenting, does something like:

Custom Starter
Glitter Bomb
Custom Starter
Custom Starter

Work to activate Glitter Bomb multiple times? or does it look like the additional Custom Starters need to meet the requirement of having something valid beneath them?

yeah that works exactly as expected. clip: https://twitter.com/BunnyAnjill/status/1653515919812096001

[TwilightDusk]

Wow, that's extremely interesting indeed. I'd suspect you're right that it sees three instances of the same Custom Starter sticker and just ends up running the first one three times. I could speculate on exactly what's causing that to happen in the code but that's more for the developer to investigate.

In the meantime, until this bug is fixed, I guess you can stack custom starter stickers, just make sure the top one on the list has a valid target underneath and then slap in as many more as you want. Should be just as effective as Random Starter spam but with the bonus of being able to have additional moves for actual use at the end of the list. Or you could toss an Echolocation at the top of the list before the Custom Starters to make a single target custom starter hit all enemies without the chance that Random Starter has of just re-casting the echo.

[phrygd]

Does Custom Starter do anything of it’s at the end of the move list? I would assume not, which makes mine harder to use. I found a rare Custom Starter that shares it with teammates, but it just goes to the end of their list and doesn’t seem to activate. Do I need to leave an open move slot for it to work on the partner?