Cant fuse with Eugene.

[AndyFox]

I feel like he is bugged or something or im not getting the relationship system correctly. I've been playing a lot with him and the relationship simple does not progress to the first heart. Do i have to do something specific to unlock fusion for him?

[Fight King]

Publicado originalmente por Texus:

I don't know, might be better for the story when you have to work for it, with a good team and the right stickers it seems pretty much okay.

Thank you, i thought i was the only sane one here, im only reading this topic to just be angry at people who dont seem to understand its a RPG and they cant just have everything handed to them just because

[Tripas]

Publicado originalmente por Fight King:

Publicado originalmente por Texus:

I don't know, might be better for the story when you have to work for it, with a good team and the right stickers it seems pretty much okay.

Thank you, i thought i was the only sane one here, im only reading this topic to just be angry at people who dont seem to understand its a RPG and they cant just have everything handed to them just because

Hey, buddy, after you've just been handed a fusion right at the start "just because", and given that the whole "fusing any two beasts into one giant mega-beast" is one of the game's biggest selling points, it is weird that the game would then go "we're making this mechanic which was introduced in the first hour of the game into an endgame ability for this character. And we're not even going to tell you about it".

The issue here isn't that you can't use the ability, the issue is that you're led to believe that you can get it fairly soon for Eugene, like you got with Kayleigh, but it turns out that it actually takes a long time, and the game never makes that clear.

[Angelus BR]

Publicado originalmente por Tripas:

Publicado originalmente por Fight King:

Thank you, i thought i was the only sane one here, im only reading this topic to just be angry at people who dont seem to understand its a RPG and they cant just have everything handed to them just because

Hey, buddy, after you've just been handed a fusion right at the start "just because", and given that the whole "fusing any two beasts into one giant mega-beast" is one of the game's biggest selling points, it is weird that the game would then go "we're making this mechanic which was introduced in the first hour of the game into an endgame ability for this character. And we're not even going to tell you about it".

The issue here isn't that you can't use the ability, the issue is that you're led to believe that you can get it fairly soon for Eugene, like you got with Kayleigh, but it turns out that it actually takes a long time, and the game never makes that clear.

This so much. The entire reason why we're upset with Eugene is because he's a beginner's trap. I only knew he couldn't do fusions early on because I've spent hours with him trying to advance his questline to no avail. I ditched him for Kayleigh and never looked back.

you don't even need Eugene to beat the landkeepers you find either.

[Fight King]

after you do the first landowners and dont see a fusion happen, it should click

[AndyFox]

Publicado originalmente por Fight King:

after you do the first landowners and dont see a fusion happen, it should click

At no point the game specifies you have to fullfill any specific pre-requisite to trigger the first hearth, the game just say "play with that person on your team and you're good", and thats what most ppl thougth it was the case, proven by how many posts I've seem here and on Reedit utterly confused as to why Eugene hearth level seemed to never increase, many ppl genuinely tougth it was a bug. With Kayleigh its never specified that fulfilling a certain objective was what triggered the first hearth, its all just presented to you as an scripted event that was mandatory for game progression so why would anyone assume from there on there would be quests involved unless they are specifically told that? Yes many imagined that could be the case, me included, but you cant be sure without confirmation, them you keep asking yourself what is wrong. Again, this is not something that ruined the game for me, it was just frustating but sure as hell it would have been nice to have that specified to me in the game, cause i really wanted to have fusion on Eugene and could not understand why nothing i did unlocked it when i was doing everything the game told me i was supposed to do, and if thats because im just dumb them im not the only one it seems, so a nice ingame explanation for us dumbs would have been very welcomed.

[Angelus BR]

The whole archangel thing being related to hearts is also not quite evenly done. Kayleigh's two hearts are tied to archangel fights, while I'm at 4 hearts with meredith and I only had one archangel fight.

[Otato]

For how high level Eugene's questline goes, I thought there'd at least be a twist or something at the end. It kind of undermines the narrative device of the fusions that we get to the fusion for him and literally nothing has changed between him and us compared to the very first time we invaded one of the buildings.

The archangel is even like "Oh ho ho, maybe there's something deeper here?" and we the PC are like "No, that's not the case!" and then we fuse with Eugene.

[Feurik]

It definitely is misleading, since the other two early game partners get fusion enabled on their very first quests. Both of them are relateively short, too. So it would make sense to fuse on your first quest encounter with Eugene, probably with that archangel involved that shows up later anyway. And then have the remaining quest following that as fuel for your possible relationship.

The way it's presented however makes you assume that it's either a) a bug or b) tied to another quest. Either way, right now it's not worth it having him in your party. After all, if he can't fuse early, you're going to stick to a partner who can. And you're unlikely to switch partners later on for someone who only has one heart compared to the others.

That doesn't mean people are dumb. They're just disappointed. The game actually deters you from picking Eugene at all, unless for 100% completion. So either have him available for fusion earlier, or have him start with more hearts unlocked for all the time you've spent with him until then. That's got nothing to do with handholding.

[Dameron]

I've been doing quests with Eugene for like ten levels now and I wondered what was wrong, knowing that I have to complete his quest which takes all the way until the mid- or end-game is rediculous. Plus there are so many misleading articles online that claim you gain relationship points from Resting or defeating Archangels with your partners, and the game itself never specifies in the tutorial that you actually need to complete your partners' quests specifically. In fact, Kayleigh's first heart isn't even from a partner quest! It's from a main story quest!

This isn't even just a massive oversight from the developers anymore, they are literally explaining a core feature of the game wrongly in their own tutorial! What an incredible blunder. This needs to be patched ASAP.

[Humble Kraken]

Oh no what 😨 I unlocked Eugene almost immediately and found his character super likeable so I dropped Kayleigh and stuck with him, now I'm level 30, have been grinding for landlord buildings to try and get up his hearts since Kayleigh's heart unlocked so early, but have only found two buildings so far 😭😭😭 and only ever fused once at the start of the game when fighting the archangel. I guess I have to leave Eugene behind :'( wish he was a late-game character, or at least that his heart unlocked easier

[Texus]

Publicado originalmente por Humble Kraken:

Oh no what 😨 I unlocked Eugene almost immediately and found his character super likeable so I dropped Kayleigh and stuck with him, now I'm level 30, have been grinding for landlord buildings to try and get up his hearts since Kayleigh's heart unlocked so early, but have only found two buildings so far 😭😭😭 and only ever fused once at the start of the game when fighting the archangel. I guess I have to leave Eugene behind :'( wish he was a late-game character, or at least that his heart unlocked easier

He is my 5th place I think, or 6th. However, you could watch that Landlord video from Gym LeaderEd for that help

[HeraldOfOpera]

Publicado originalmente por Angelus BR:

The whole archangel thing being related to hearts is also not quite evenly done. Kayleigh's two hearts are tied to archangel fights, while I'm at 4 hearts with meredith and I only had one archangel fight.

Kayleigh's second heart is tied to her unique archangel fight because you already have the first one from the main storyline. If the Archangel you fought with Meredith hadn't been specifically Nowhere Monarch she'd still be stuck at 0.

[Humble Kraken]

Publicado originalmente por Texus:

Publicado originalmente por Humble Kraken:

Oh no what 😨 I unlocked Eugene almost immediately and found his character super likeable so I dropped Kayleigh and stuck with him, now I'm level 30, have been grinding for landlord buildings to try and get up his hearts since Kayleigh's heart unlocked so early, but have only found two buildings so far 😭😭😭 and only ever fused once at the start of the game when fighting the archangel. I guess I have to leave Eugene behind :'( wish he was a late-game character, or at least that his heart unlocked easier

He is my 5th place I think, or 6th. However, you could watch that Landlord video from Gym LeaderEd for that help

Thanks, think I'll watch someone blast through Landlords to unlock Fusion with Eugene, and then cruise through the rest of the gameplay with him :)

[steven.adamssers]

I know this game is woke af. I was playing it anyway in spite of it because it sounds like a good idea. Leave it to woke to screw their own gimmick up. I get it, you want me to play as a person of color or a female. I get the only white dude looks like an idiot over and over. That's fine. But then you are going to nerf him too. That's pathetic.

[Tripas]

That's a very informative and serious statement coming from someone who doesn't even own the game (despite it being on sale and bundles multiple times), and with a brand new Steam account which has a history of *checks notes* one post.

As in this one post you've ever made, and it's culture war nonsense.

Yeah dude, you totally sound like someone who should be listened to.