Isn't this just Forsaken?

[Meldiron]

The video game play that I have seen looks practically the same as Forsaken on the Nintendo 64. Is this a ripoff or am I missing something?

[♂TheBlasterMaster™✞]

It's influenced, not a ripoff. This game has procedurally generated maps and is quite different when playing it. It's a great game.

[Jawsman01]

Agreed and LOVING this better.☺

[t-blade]

Forsaken probably has more “character”, depending on what you’re going for. Some really good looking and fun maps, more varied door types and environments, that’s the benefit of having hand made maps… other than that, it’s the PvP modes, but honestly, as I mentioned in the other thread, I’d rather stick with coop.

Procedural generation does crazy things, the replayability is unparalleled. That explains why I’ve already spent almost 800 hours on this. As obvious as some influences are, I think Desecrators does have its very unique spin on them. One thing to point out is that Desecrators has much better weapon balancing and difficulty scaling than Forsaken. Not sure if I can convince OP to try this but still, it’s *really* good, inspired or not.

[ZeemaSixtySeven]

What if it was, how old is Forsaken now?

[szederpg]

I was about to ask the same question.

[Olisseus]

Graphics are reminiscent of old forsaken, but gameplay wise this is much more streamlined and straight forward. I prefer desecrators simplicity and head on approach over forsakens puzzles and chaos.

[Erenussocrates]

There are so few weapon types, and you can carry 2 primary weapons at most and yet they have 4 different ammo types in the game. Like what's even the point, I'm pretty sure there is only one weapon that can use one of those ammo types too. They gradually butchered the game in development, lol

[t-blade]

Originally posted by Erenussocrates:

There are so few weapon types, and you can carry 2 primary weapons at most and yet they have 4 different ammo types in the game. Like what's even the point, I'm pretty sure there is only one weapon that can use one of those ammo types too. They gradually butchered the game in development, lol

The ignorance in your post lol.

There are 10 base primary weapons. Among these weapons, only two of them don’t share ammo types with others, those being Syntapod and Pyro along with their upgrades. The game isn’t finished yet and more weapons using those ammo types will be added.

The dynamic drop system means you won’t be forced to pick up ammo types from guns you don’t possess. It’s not like you’re forced to use them. No, it’s not dumbing down the game.

You find weapon slots as you progress through the run. Maximum slot count is 4, just like how it was. Full exploration guarantees 5 slot pickups.

Before you slap me with “but you can’t unlock all 12 slots”, well that’s the point. With the new munition ammo system, you can use secondaries and mines much more often and actually have a build. No further discussion will be had on this topic. Apparently good fundamentals is considered butchering the game.

I’d rather be treated like a monkey and focus on the meat of the game, instead of doing math games on optimal ammo management with needless backtracking. Maybe also consider the fact that humans are all monkeys to start with (/s).

[HellsDelight]

Forsaken 1998 was like Descent 1995

[Pretentieux]

It really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks that the bright future of the 90s turned into ♥♥♥♥ like this discussion post. This is a great game. OP is a troll or an idiot. Neither one warrants any more of a response.

[decizion]

Credits to Forsaken for being one of the first 6DOF but it aged very badly. Desecrators is a far superior game in almost every aspects.

[Meldiron]

Originally posted by Pretentieux:

It really ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks that the bright future of the 90s turned into ♥♥♥♥ like this discussion post. This is a great game. OP is a troll or an idiot. Neither one warrants any more of a response.

Wow what is your problem? Calling me a troll or an idiot? First of all, this was an old post that was necro'd. Not my fault. Also, it is a legit question. If it was just a rip-off than I wouldn't want to waste another second on it. But if it was not, which seems to be the case, then I would look into maybe buying and playing it. I happened to love Forsaken 64, so my concern is valid. You on the other hand are nothing but a negative comment that I'll forget about as soon as I'm done typing this. I highly suggest that you reevaluate your life and try to actually be a decent person. The world already has enough negativity in it after all. Have a good day.

[Meldiron]

Originally posted by decizion:

Credits to Forsaken for being one of the first 6DOF but it aged very badly. Desecrators is a far superior game in almost every aspects.

I have not played it or a sim of it in many years. So I can't say one way or another about how it has aged. But if you're a fan of Forsaken 64 and has this opinion on this game, then that is a good sign. Thank you for your opinion.

[Umbaupause]

I'd describe it as "The better memories you had of Forsaken" I guess? There's a lot of good and fast paced combat in this one compared to Forsaken on average, and you get some cool upgrades which make the weapons quite a bit more interesting than they were in Forsaken as well, even if they are beyond just inspired in their base forms.
I played quite a few runs of this, and it's just really fun if you just wanna jump in and blast some metal into sharp confetti.

[Scot.Dos]

I've got both Forsaken and this game. We get like nothing in the 6DOF Genre. I need to play with it more, but I'd say watch a review or two, maybe some gameplay see what you feel about it. Steam forums tend to be a lil lame to use. If you have Augmented Steam you can just get links to search youtube for gameplay and reviews and see if it's on sale anywhere.