Scam

[Vengeful Mosquito]

Is this game a scam?

[Arkew Von Greffer]

yes

[Phoenix Cat]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Arkew Von Greffer:

yes

How can you say that, when they are continuing to work on it. Litterally had an update this morning...get with the program!!

[J-&Dre]

It is not a scam, but it is still in EA. Make of that what you will.

I currently had 160+ hours in Craftopia when Palworld was launched. Looking at another game, completing the game Farcry 6 story, 83 hours.

Which one is a scam?

[Driko]

Ursprungligen skrivet av brnphoenix75:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Arkew Von Greffer:

yes

How can you say that, when they are continuing to work on it. Litterally had an update this morning...get with the program!!

yeah, patch notes with some 6 lines of bug fixes or adjustments, are not really what can be expected.
my guess?
They would port craftopia to unreal, but then had the brilliant idea to not do it, and just reskin it as a bootleg pokemon and profit.
Palworld have a lot of the features craftopia has, minus pals...., they c*pied pokemons and shuffled the parts, slapped in the craftopia and called it a new game.
craftopia is never going to be finished.
It may get a release date, but it's never going to be finished, the same way the studio behind my time at portia abandoned planet explorers to make portia.
Well, at least portia was a okay-ish game, and sandrock is kinda better.
I really doubt the same will happen to palworld.
Cause palworld is just a cash grab with no story, no thoughtful design, nothing, it's just a craftopia reskin (which was generic on it's own)

[sintri]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Driko:

Ursprungligen skrivet av brnphoenix75:

How can you say that, when they are continuing to work on it. Litterally had an update this morning...get with the program!!

yeah, patch notes with some 6 lines of bug fixes or adjustments, are not really what can be expected.
my guess?
They would port craftopia to unreal, but then had the brilliant idea to not do it, and just reskin it as a bootleg pokemon and profit.
Palworld have a lot of the features craftopia has, minus pals...., they c*pied pokemons and shuffled the parts, slapped in the craftopia and called it a new game.
craftopia is never going to be finished.
It may get a release date, but it's never going to be finished, the same way the studio behind my time at portia abandoned planet explorers to make portia.
Well, at least portia was a okay-ish game, and sandrock is kinda better.
I really doubt the same will happen to palworld.
Cause palworld is just a cash grab with no story, no thoughtful design, nothing, it's just a craftopia reskin (which was generic on it's own)

Spoken like someone that has played neither game.

[いか]

Wow I came here to just to see if this game has grown and found 9 pages of ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Obey the Fist!]

To answer your question: No, the developers have moved on to Palworld. Also in Early Access.

[いか]

Ursprungligen skrivet av sintri:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Driko:

yeah, patch notes with some 6 lines of bug fixes or adjustments, are not really what can be expected.
my guess?
They would port craftopia to unreal, but then had the brilliant idea to not do it, and just reskin it as a bootleg pokemon and profit.
Palworld have a lot of the features craftopia has, minus pals...., they c*pied pokemons and shuffled the parts, slapped in the craftopia and called it a new game.
craftopia is never going to be finished.
It may get a release date, but it's never going to be finished, the same way the studio behind my time at portia abandoned planet explorers to make portia.
Well, at least portia was a okay-ish game, and sandrock is kinda better.
I really doubt the same will happen to palworld.
Cause palworld is just a cash grab with no story, no thoughtful design, nothing, it's just a craftopia reskin (which was generic on it's own)

Spoken like someone that has played neither game.

I have like 200 hours in palworld alone now. He's right. Like I get most folks haven't developed games. Especially in JP. But lemme tell you this having worked with some smut based companies in modeling..

They are definitely done with this game. The sheer fact all they had to do is adjust the wall climbing to be .2 instad of .0 on terrain (meaning arms clip through and the model has to react because yeah...) is silly. I fixed that in template in 1 minute. Just XYZ issues.

i cracked this game open and lemme tell ya.. It's like a disney infinity game in there. So many switches and variables that lead to zero. Literally 0. I think they used the survival template and didn't know how to implement it.

It's not even that deep of coding here. Ima go crack pal world open and take a look. I feel like this game used some koikatsu models as well.

[Cash]

I do agree on the fact that it Feels bad when you purchase an EA game, and when it doesn't get out of EA because of whatever problems arise
(Dev team size,new game being started, funding, development hell w/e)

you as a player feel kinda scammed like "I brought this and expected to release and be complete some day with my and other players support to the game".

The current way the industry is now... it sucks, you can spend money on a "possibly" finished "maybe" released product....

BUT I whole heartily agree that you shouldn't expect ANYTHING from the EA products, they are a risk (kinda like stock market and gambling) that you as a player have to buy into to check out if you will stick with until the devs have the time, money, power to finish it.

Buying into EA is a gamble, and yes the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ practices are there but you have to make a informed decision to trust the devs and support them all the while and hope the game you are funding comes to be...

[Driko]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cash:

I do agree on the fact that it Feels bad when you purchase an EA game, and when it doesn't get out of EA because of whatever problems arise
(Dev team size,new game being started, funding, development hell w/e)

you as a player feel kinda scammed like "I brought this and expected to release and be complete some day with my and other players support to the game".

The current way the industry is now... it sucks, you can spend money on a "possibly" finished "maybe" released product....

BUT I whole heartily agree that you shouldn't expect ANYTHING from the EA products, they are a risk (kinda like stock market and gambling) that you as a player have to buy into to check out if you will stick with until the devs have the time, money, power to finish it.

Buying into EA is a gamble, and yes the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ practices are there but you have to make a informed decision to trust the devs and support them all the while and hope the game you are funding comes to be...

it would be valid IF the developer ran out of funds, which it was not the case.
THEY USED THE MONEY THEY EARNED FROM CRAFTOPIA to make palworld.
That is why this is A SCAM, it was a deliberate choice from the devs.
They probably were porting the craftopia to unreal and they had the idea for palworld and decided to just scrap the idea of releasing craftopia in unreal and just a make a reskin of craftopia.

[Phoenix Cat]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Driko:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Cash:

I do agree on the fact that it Feels bad when you purchase an EA game, and when it doesn't get out of EA because of whatever problems arise
(Dev team size,new game being started, funding, development hell w/e)

you as a player feel kinda scammed like "I brought this and expected to release and be complete some day with my and other players support to the game".

The current way the industry is now... it sucks, you can spend money on a "possibly" finished "maybe" released product....

BUT I whole heartily agree that you shouldn't expect ANYTHING from the EA products, they are a risk (kinda like stock market and gambling) that you as a player have to buy into to check out if you will stick with until the devs have the time, money, power to finish it.

Buying into EA is a gamble, and yes the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ practices are there but you have to make a informed decision to trust the devs and support them all the while and hope the game you are funding comes to be...

it would be valid IF the developer ran out of funds, which it was not the case.
THEY USED THE MONEY THEY EARNED FROM CRAFTOPIA to make palworld.
That is why this is A SCAM, it was a deliberate choice from the devs.
They probably were porting the craftopia to unreal and they had the idea for palworld and decided to just scrap the idea of releasing craftopia in unreal and just a make a reskin of craftopia.

And now that they have multi millions of dollars, they are going to finish craftopia. Why is this so hard to understand?? They say they are going to do it, there have continued to be patches, and there is a long term map that is been put out. If and when they stop development, then you still have no gripe, because of what EA state. You made a choice to buy. Just like I did. It's a gamble. I play a majority EA games. Have gotten some good ones, and some that didn't pan out. Not pissed, just EA.

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Ursprungligen skrivet av brnphoenix75:

No! Why would you say that?? It's a very fun game. I have several hundred hours in it over 7 characters.

Ursprungligen skrivet av starlight78sso:

Why would you think it is a scam?

Because maybe they do next to no updates as of late and instead started a brand new early access game. Scam isnt the word I would use. More like Abandonedware.

Which is why I wont buy their new game. I want to see this one finish first.

[starlight78sso]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Man Cave Mike:

Because maybe they do next to no updates as of late and instead started a brand new early access game. Scam isnt the word I would use. More like Abandonedware.

Which is why I wont buy their new game. I want to see this one finish first.

They have done 3 updates since the beginning of the year, how many more updates do you think they need to do in a month and half?

[RTX 5080 FE(Mr Happy)]

Ursprungligen skrivet av starlight78sso:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Man Cave Mike:

Because maybe they do next to no updates as of late and instead started a brand new early access game. Scam isnt the word I would use. More like Abandonedware.

Which is why I wont buy their new game. I want to see this one finish first.

They have done 3 updates since the beginning of the year, how many more updates do you think they need to do in a month and half?

Only 1 update this year is listed, And it added zero content. Just bug fixes.



Proof https://steamdb.info/app/1307550/patchnotes/



Palworld, on the other hand, has had 7 updates

https://steamdb.info/app/1623730/patchnotes/

Optimization Processing Hotfix February 8, 2024
0.1.4.1 0.1.1.4 February 7, 2024
0.1.4.0 0.1.1.3 January 31, 2024
- 0.1.1.2 January 29, 2024
Infinite Loading Hotfix - January 27, 2024
0.1.3.0 0.1.1.1 January 25, 2024
- Black Screen Hotfix January 23, 2024
- 0.1.1.0 January 23, 2024
0.1.2.0 - January 19, 2024


Clearly the devs are more focused on their new game(that is all fine and dandy) but they seem to have forgotten the game many of us bought 2 years ago and have patiently waited for updates.


The game has a plethora of bugs, optimization issues and needs more content, but with the success of their new game, this game will fall deep into the early access sink hole.

Game came out in 2020 and already Palworld has more content and updates than this game is getting.

Again that is fine, but it would be nice to show some loyalty and respect to the customers that bought their first game, or even an open honest post.

Dear Craftopia, due to us being a small dev team and a wildly popular release, we are gonna be MIA on Craftopia for awhile. but we will finish it.

I would respect that, but the ignore us in general, meh, oh well. that's early access. It's a 50 50 crap shoot as to if you get trash or treasure.

[Obey the Fist!]

It shouldn't be permitted for a developer to release more than one game in Early Access... either they are working on the game or they aren't.

And if they're a big enough studio they can afford multiple teams and multiple projects, they have no excuse for using Early Access. They obviously have enough money, and can pay software testers and budget to finish their game before publishing it.