Are magic staff builds harder or something?

[Buttflapper]

I've used magic staff magic build the entire game, got to end game and got destroyed. I don't understand it. Enemies disappear and reappear under your feet so you can't get it cast off. Whenever you do, your weapon deals almost no damage.


Just wondering if I should instead switch to Sword and Shield for endgame? Seems like it deals so much more damage and so much faster and easier to use...

[JohnyDoBody]

I don't Believe the magic in the game is balanced enough. its either strong and slow or weak and fast. also the use timers and the need for catalyst. 3/10

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

Magic is only good for killing packs of small fry.... for bosses the only build that shine is dual wield, followed by katana and bow.

One handed swords are the best weapon in the game when it comes to stats.
Then there's passive skills that boost critical rate and critical damages for one handed swords and katanas.
DW and katana have special rush attacks that deals tons of damages, are iframes and have no cd (you just need to stack a buff to make the rush attack avalable).

To shine magic require to stack buffs that have a long CDs, dont last long, consumme mana and/or have severe drawbacks (consumme HPs, increase mana consumption, reduce defense, etc....). So you have an okay short "burst", but once your buff are on CD, you got no other options.

Now another thing that shouldnt be overlooked, your attack power and critical rate/damages (physical) are what decid how fast you mine minerals and cut wood.... which are an important parts of the gameplay.... and you only max attack power on physical builds.... Also, trying to go hybrid (half magical, half physical) is ofc a no go if you wanna accomplish anything....


I'd say.... forget shields.... learn either DW or katana combos and rush attacks, make yourself a gear maxing your critical rate/damage (dangerous), physical attack (too many to list them but you get the idea, flat and % atk) and defense (red eye).
There's even a couple swords that allow you to cast spell without having to learn them, so you can still set things on fire, freeze them or kill packs of small fry with AOE magic without spending a single (hell fire with amon daggers, frost mine with fenris swords).

[jin kurai]

Originally posted by JohnyDoBody:

I don't Believe the magic in the game is balanced enough. its either strong and slow or weak and fast. also the use timers and the need for catalyst. 3/10

Originally posted by Guh~hey~hey~♫:

Magic is only good for killing packs of small fry.... for bosses the only build that shine is dual wield, followed by katana and bow.

One handed swords are the best weapon in the game when it comes to stats.
Then there's passive skills that boost critical rate and critical damages for one handed swords and katanas.
DW and katana have special rush attacks that deals tons of damages, are iframes and have no cd (you just need to stack a buff to make the rush attack avalable).

To shine magic require to stack buffs that have a long CDs, dont last long, consumme mana and/or have severe drawbacks (consumme HPs, increase mana consumption, reduce defense, etc....). So you have an okay short "burst", but once your buff are on CD, you got no other options.

Now another thing that shouldnt be overlooked, your attack power and critical rate/damages (physical) are what decid how fast you mine minerals and cut wood.... which are an important parts of the gameplay.... and you only max attack power on physical builds.... Also, trying to go hybrid (half magical, half physical) is ofc a no go if you wanna accomplish anything....


I'd say.... forget shields.... learn either DW or katana combos and rush attacks, make yourself a gear maxing your critical rate/damage (dangerous), physical attack (too many to list them but you get the idea, flat and % atk) and defense (red eye).
There's even a couple swords that allow you to cast spell without having to learn them, so you can still set things on fire, freeze them or kill packs of small fry with AOE magic without spending a single (hell fire with amon daggers, frost mine with fenris swords).

meanwhile, dont mind me, infinity heal/mana restore/ fast cd and letting off 10-40k damage per second. i am only sitting at 8.9k Magic atk nowhere close where i want to be.

it all depend son your set-up and skills
I am usually playing safe with sword/shield some defense and some offense.

[Guh~hey~hey~♫]

40K per second with magic ? :o
Maybe if you're using a mod and with all full buffs on. And that's still lower than the DPS of a dual wield combo without any CD related buff.
Also for bow, when hitting a full buff critical, you can land 7 million damages in a single hit (kills anything in one hit, given that you score a critical). It's only inferior to DW and katanas because critical rate is capped at the basic 10%.

Shield is not good cuz it doesnt work against everything and it consumme stamina. The stunning effect also doesnt work all the time (bug ?). It's probably good for a magic built, to regenerate mana with the blocks.... only if your ennemy use projectiles against you.
For avoiding damages Iframe is superior and it let you deal damage while doing so.

And again, mining depend on your attack power, magic is no help for that matter. With gatherer frenzy and a maxed physical build, you can deplete a bedrock in 10 seconds and you can break the big ice crystals on winter islands as fast.... no magic build allow this.