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My1 Sep 12, 2021 @ 1:45pm
xbox version vs steam
are there any differences between the versions for xbox and steam?
also is the xbox version play anywhere (aka the version you buy on MS Store runs on both xbox and Windows)
also I have seen the xbox version is a littke more expensive than steam, is there a reason behind that?

because I have an xbox one X where it runs pretty decent in the 1 hour trial period (aside from once where the performance tanked but then again I did crank most graphic settings to 4k and stuff)

also I have to say that it's really rare seeing console games with ANY graphic settings let alone that many, big respect from me there.
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Legendzary Sep 14, 2021 @ 4:58pm 
The Steam version has easier access to mods through the workshop, the windows 10 store version is much harder to mod since you have to use UWPDumper and all.

The windows 10 version also has cross play between only other windows 10 version players and xbox players, while the steam version only can play with other steam users.

The steam version also has access to unstable builds of the game.

Also, I checked the microsoft store of craftopia and it did not have xbox play anywhere so I would assume that you would have to buy it on seperate devices.
Legendzary Sep 14, 2021 @ 4:59pm 
Also, the devs of the game published an update to the xbox version which will improve performance on all of the xbox consoles, but it is still pending review by xbox.
Legendzary Sep 14, 2021 @ 5:01pm 
Oh yeah, the Steam version also has support to use VRoid models as your character.
Sep 15, 2021 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by Legendzary:
The Steam version has easier access to mods through the workshop, the windows 10 store version is much harder to mod since you have to use UWPDumper and all.

The windows 10 version also has cross play between only other windows 10 version players and xbox players, while the steam version only can play with other steam users.

The steam version also has access to unstable builds of the game.

Also, I checked the microsoft store of craftopia and it did not have xbox play anywhere so I would assume that you would have to buy it on seperate devices.

Btw, even if you play one, you can convert your savedata to play on the others. The process can take under a minute if you know the save locations.
My1 Sep 15, 2021 @ 3:24am 
Originally posted by ᲼᲼:
Originally posted by Legendzary:
The Steam version has easier access to mods through the workshop, the windows 10 store version is much harder to mod since you have to use UWPDumper and all.

The windows 10 version also has cross play between only other windows 10 version players and xbox players, while the steam version only can play with other steam users.

The steam version also has access to unstable builds of the game.

Also, I checked the microsoft store of craftopia and it did not have xbox play anywhere so I would assume that you would have to buy it on seperate devices.

Btw, even if you play one, you can convert your savedata to play on the others. The process can take under a minute if you know the save locations.
does that also work with the version on xbox because I had some playtime from the trial, and sounds like steam would be better than xbox in many ways.
Splashbang Sep 15, 2021 @ 10:03am 
Originally posted by My1:
Originally posted by ᲼᲼:

Btw, even if you play one, you can convert your savedata to play on the others. The process can take under a minute if you know the save locations.
does that also work with the version on xbox because I had some playtime from the trial, and sounds like steam would be better than xbox in many ways.

If you've got a 1 hour trial version I'm surprised I haven't found it anywhere. I do however have Game Pass on both Xbox and Game Pass for Windows 10, where it's listed under Game Preview which is the exact same thing as Early Access here on Steam, and there's no 1 hour trial there. Could be that you live in a country where Game Preview isn't fully implemented yet and they give you 1 hour trials instead, I don't know.

The Xbox version is behind the PC version but by how much, i'm not sure.

I'm getting the Steam version tomorrow, personally, because I enjoyed the game so far in Game Preview where I've got about 20 hours or so invested into it already.

What I can definitely say, is that it's impossible to mod the Windows 10 version of this game, since the folder it's installed on won't allow you to add any mods or anything else to it. You'll be told that the file is too big, even if it's just under 1mb in size.

Using a tool to help with that, can cause your account to be banned and it's not worth risking one's Xbox Live account over. Better to buy the Steam version where it's much easier to mod, and the updates don't have to go through a QA test. That's probably why the Xbox version is behind on updates.

I also do not recommend messing with the Xbox save files unless you know exactly what you're doing as converting save files can cause the save file to become corrupted, which means you'll have to start over anyway.

The game is in development though, and starting over in this game is super easy if you go for the Steam version.
Last edited by Splashbang; Sep 15, 2021 @ 10:06am
My1 Sep 16, 2021 @ 4:17am 
Originally posted by Grumpy old Git:
Originally posted by My1:
does that also work with the version on xbox because I had some playtime from the trial, and sounds like steam would be better than xbox in many ways.

If you've got a 1 hour trial version I'm surprised I haven't found it anywhere. I do however have Game Pass on both Xbox and Game Pass for Windows 10, where it's listed under Game Preview which is the exact same thing as Early Access here on Steam, and there's no 1 hour trial there. Could be that you live in a country where Game Preview isn't fully implemented yet and they give you 1 hour trials instead, I don't know.

The Xbox version is behind the PC version but by how much, i'm not sure.

I'm getting the Steam version tomorrow, personally, because I enjoyed the game so far in Game Preview where I've got about 20 hours or so invested into it already.

What I can definitely say, is that it's impossible to mod the Windows 10 version of this game, since the folder it's installed on won't allow you to add any mods or anything else to it. You'll be told that the file is too big, even if it's just under 1mb in size.

Using a tool to help with that, can cause your account to be banned and it's not worth risking one's Xbox Live account over. Better to buy the Steam version where it's much easier to mod, and the updates don't have to go through a QA test. That's probably why the Xbox version is behind on updates.

I also do not recommend messing with the Xbox save files unless you know exactly what you're doing as converting save files can cause the save file to become corrupted, which means you'll have to start over anyway.

The game is in development though, and starting over in this game is super easy if you go for the Steam version.
I can also buy the game on xbox if I want but I am not sure which version to take currently.

WHat I doubt tho is that I can go as ham on the graphics settings as I did on my scorpio xbox (ryzen 1700x/rx580)
Last edited by My1; Sep 16, 2021 @ 4:19am
Splashbang Sep 16, 2021 @ 5:07am 
Originally posted by My1:
Originally posted by Grumpy old Git:

If you've got a 1 hour trial version I'm surprised I haven't found it anywhere. I do however have Game Pass on both Xbox and Game Pass for Windows 10, where it's listed under Game Preview which is the exact same thing as Early Access here on Steam, and there's no 1 hour trial there. Could be that you live in a country where Game Preview isn't fully implemented yet and they give you 1 hour trials instead, I don't know.

The Xbox version is behind the PC version but by how much, i'm not sure.

I'm getting the Steam version tomorrow, personally, because I enjoyed the game so far in Game Preview where I've got about 20 hours or so invested into it already.

What I can definitely say, is that it's impossible to mod the Windows 10 version of this game, since the folder it's installed on won't allow you to add any mods or anything else to it. You'll be told that the file is too big, even if it's just under 1mb in size.

Using a tool to help with that, can cause your account to be banned and it's not worth risking one's Xbox Live account over. Better to buy the Steam version where it's much easier to mod, and the updates don't have to go through a QA test. That's probably why the Xbox version is behind on updates.

I also do not recommend messing with the Xbox save files unless you know exactly what you're doing as converting save files can cause the save file to become corrupted, which means you'll have to start over anyway.

The game is in development though, and starting over in this game is super easy if you go for the Steam version.
I can also buy the game on xbox if I want but I am not sure which version to take currently.

WHat I doubt tho is that I can go as ham on the graphics settings as I did on my scorpio xbox (ryzen 1700x/rx580)

Well, you could always look on the store page here and check the minimum requirements.
My1 Sep 16, 2021 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Grumpy old Git:
Originally posted by My1:
I can also buy the game on xbox if I want but I am not sure which version to take currently.

WHat I doubt tho is that I can go as ham on the graphics settings as I did on my scorpio xbox (ryzen 1700x/rx580)

Well, you could always look on the store page here and check the minimum requirements.
the min requirements dont say anything about what settings I can take in fact they say kinda nothing in the first place, I doubt I can take a random GPU with 2GB VRAM and just go 4k on that.
Splashbang Sep 16, 2021 @ 10:26am 
Originally posted by My1:
Originally posted by Grumpy old Git:

Well, you could always look on the store page here and check the minimum requirements.
the min requirements dont say anything about what settings I can take in fact they say kinda nothing in the first place, I doubt I can take a random GPU with 2GB VRAM and just go 4k on that.

The minimum requirements tells you whether or not you can run the game on the lowest settings if at all. Granted it's the recommended specs you should be looking at.

I mentioned that since you were kind of vague when mentioning your specs.

The only real difference between the PC and Xbox version would be mods, as it is impossible to mod the Xbox version as well as the Game Pass for Windows version.

There are a few videos on youtube with gameplay impressions and more.

The Steam version will of course always be the best version due to the fact that we can mod the game, which in turn increases it's longevity and boost the replay value significantly.
Last edited by Splashbang; Sep 16, 2021 @ 10:27am
My1 Sep 16, 2021 @ 11:11pm 
Originally posted by Grumpy old Git:
Originally posted by My1:
the min requirements dont say anything about what settings I can take in fact they say kinda nothing in the first place, I doubt I can take a random GPU with 2GB VRAM and just go 4k on that.

The minimum requirements tells you whether or not you can run the game on the lowest settings if at all. Granted it's the recommended specs you should be looking at.

I mentioned that since you were kind of vague when mentioning your specs.

The only real difference between the PC and Xbox version would be mods, as it is impossible to mod the Xbox version as well as the Game Pass for Windows version.

There are a few videos on youtube with gameplay impressions and more.

The Steam version will of course always be the best version due to the fact that we can mod the game, which in turn increases it's longevity and boost the replay value significantly.
I did mention the CPU and GPU which would be by far the biggest bottleneck for going high on settings. storage space doesnt matter entirely as it's just one game, and with 32 GB of RAM I think that isnt anywhere near an issue.

also if you look at the store page the recommended secs only mention that a 64 bit OS is needed
Last edited by My1; Sep 16, 2021 @ 11:12pm
Splashbang Sep 16, 2021 @ 11:25pm 
Originally posted by My1:
Originally posted by Grumpy old Git:

The minimum requirements tells you whether or not you can run the game on the lowest settings if at all. Granted it's the recommended specs you should be looking at.

I mentioned that since you were kind of vague when mentioning your specs.

The only real difference between the PC and Xbox version would be mods, as it is impossible to mod the Xbox version as well as the Game Pass for Windows version.

There are a few videos on youtube with gameplay impressions and more.

The Steam version will of course always be the best version due to the fact that we can mod the game, which in turn increases it's longevity and boost the replay value significantly.
I did mention the CPU and GPU which would be by far the biggest bottleneck for going high on settings. storage space doesnt matter entirely as it's just one game, and with 32 GB of RAM I think that isnt anywhere near an issue.

also if you look at the store page the recommended secs only mention that a 64 bit OS is needed

Storage does matter but not the most important thing to look at, no.

That's because the game is designed on and for a 64-bit OS, so if you don't have that then you're out of luck either way.

Your GFX card, is it the 8gb or 4gb version? Shouldn't matter though as it should be more than capable of running the game.

As for the price difference, Microsoft charges more money for games on their storefront and updating a game cost a lot of money. For AAA titles it's $50,000,- per update (Less for critical updates unless they've recently removed the cost for those). For indie developers who releases games on Game Preview, they get a special deal but it will still be costly to keep updating the game every single week, especially if the game isn't selling well.

Since the game is on Game Pass i'm not sure how they do it with updates and pricing.

Still, it shouldn't matter much. The Game Pass version is free and isn't a 1 hour trial. If you haven't got Game Pass you're definitely missing out.

If you want to increase performance in 4K on the series X, lower the LOD draw distance significantly and turn off motion blur as well as V-sync as you don't need V-sync in 4K.
My1 Sep 17, 2021 @ 12:35am 
I have not said that the xbox version is a one hour trial, but it has one and that's what i played as i don't have gamepass, also at least one the one x (not series) i have had no severe problems in 4k.

Regarding storage space, unlike age of empires where you get the big stuff as an extra Download here this doesn't seem the case so either you have the storage or you don't.

My gpu is the 8gb version btw, but it did have enough issues 4k'ing other games so i don't have hopes for this either.

Also sure it is made for 64 bit but if you ACTUALLY look at the store page you could see that the min specs are vague at best and well minimum and the recommended ones practically empty.
Splashbang Sep 17, 2021 @ 1:58am 
Originally posted by My1:
Also sure it is made for 64 bit but if you ACTUALLY look at the store page you could see that the min specs are vague at best and well minimum and the recommended ones practically empty.

MINIMUM:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 7 SP1 or later
Processor: 2.0 GHz Dual Core or similar
Memory: 8 GB RAM
Graphics: VRAM 2GB
DirectX: Version 11
Network: Broadband Internet connection
Storage: 12 GB available space


I don't see how that's 'vague'. It's no different than any other game's requirements list. However their Recommended specs are most likely empty except from the recommended OS due to the fact that the game requires it, period and is still not in a state where they can safely determine the recommended specs. If they did and the recommended specs aren't 100% correct then it would backfire on them pretty hard.

Originally posted by My1:
I have not said that the xbox version is a one hour trial, but it has one and that's what i played as i don't have gamepass, also at least one the one x (not series) i have had no severe problems in 4k.

Originally posted by My1:
because I have an xbox one X where it runs pretty decent in the 1 hour trial period.

You kind of did say exactly that. If that wasn't the intention, you should've been less vague. ;)

If you have the 8gb version then you can definitely run this game without a problem. I'm running the game just fine in 4K but i did turn down LOD quite a bit as that has a major performance impact. It might just be that your GFX card doesn't support 4K properly, not sure but that's easy to find out either way by just going to the manufacturer's website and check. However, if you don't have a monitor that supports 4K it's kind of pointless to even enable it as it won't have an impact on the visuals whatsoever.

Originally posted by My1:
Regarding storage space, unlike age of empires where you get the big stuff as an extra Download here this doesn't seem the case so either you have the storage or you don't.

No, the reason the overall size is bigger than the actual game size is because of what's called 'reserved space' which is used for updates and because of how the patching system works where the update files are compressed, thus requiring additional space for unpacking the files, which means it'll take up way more space before being applied to the game. That's just how updates work with Steam and every game on the platform.

Take ARK for example. It requires 200gb+ of available storage space for updates. It's an extreme example, though, but you probably get the picture.

Craftopia's total size is less than 12gb. Close to 11gb but it needs the extra space for the reasons i mentioned above.

TL;DR. Yes, your PC can run this game just fine. Keep your drivers and OS updated and you don't have to worry about it.

Oh and one more thing you can't see on the Xbox version is the info for the next update.

They're adding more races, more customization options and more, and of course the ModHub and Workshop where you can subscribe to mods. I'm currently using a mod that increases the inventory size (for all inventories. Equipment, useables, materials and crafting) to 8x8 slots, just to give one example.

Highly recommend the Steam version over the Xbox version. Plus, if you buy it at the current price you don't have to pay more when the game finally releases.
My1 Sep 17, 2021 @ 12:46pm 
I do have a 4k screen which is why u use 4k and even have a one x rather than one s

Interesting that you run the game fine in 4k. What was/is lod btw might have heard but can't recall or under a different name (English is not native to me).

I just know that i have had enough issues with games on high settings on 1080 already, even more so in 4k, where it's not only just loud af but even the framerates get ugly (and that from a person who for a long time primarily played laptop and still heavily play console so 30fps is something i happily take for better graphics) so the performance of a new game in 4k is obviously a concern for me.

Would be honestly cool if games could offer trials again, seems a rare practice nowadays.

Also regarding vagueness of the requirements, cpu and gpu usually mention a couple models or comparable.

Dual core 2ghz could be as early as the mid 2000s and likely struggle running windows let alone the game.

Then one thing I saw only rarely but have seen is a semi-decent idea for. Which settings both min and rec specs are targeted for. Which is also pretty cool.

I can understand the anxiousness of adding proper requirements to an early access game backfiring and sure I'll give them that. But even if it's like from 2005 having something like a 1 hour time trial to see how well or bad it runs would be just awesome

Regarding Xbox and the updates at least more races etc. Has been mentioned on the character creation screen.
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