Stun vs Blind Rig

[Ricktap]

Which have you all found to be more effective overall? I've just started out and am trying to figure out which I should get first.

[Frosty]

Been using the X-ray rig personally. Can find items easier, can find documents and posters. Later upgrades can recharge your night vision whenever you use it. Can high light enemies and stuff for team mates. Helps you find objective items quicker.

[Dragon_Dude1]

I heard from someone the stun makes the AI go into some sort of rage mode or something, idk if its true or not, but the blind gives a smoke screen that you can actually sit inside and not be visible to enemies. I perfer the X-ray, like the comment above.

[Jalir]

Stun is just soooooo good, even with the rage mechanic. It's almost too good, if you have multiple people running stun in your party.

[Arlen]

^^ Stun just opens so many opportunities, u can use it anywhere and there's no set-up like the blind one.

[PovKetz]

I'd say in terms of overall usefulness, the Mines are simply unmatched. As stated above the cloud makes you completely invisible, but I don't think Dragon_Dude1 really emphasized just how good it is. Any and all actions done inside the cloud are completely silent. For example you can place the mine down between two of the switches for the Snitch, have the Warden trigger it, and then just sit on the switches for the solid 15+ seconds the smoke lasts for, easily completing any objective you need. This applies for anything really, generators, Radios, reviving a teammate right next to the big bad.

The smoke is unbelievably useful, to the point that it'll likely get nerfed. Stun is good while being chased, while mine let's you preemptively place a mine behind you, start cranking a generator or the long valves you need to turn, and it'll protect ya and give you a smoke screen to easily let you finish the task.

[BjornLM]

I'm using the blind rig, and a friend of mine is using the stun.

After a decent bit of playing, I've come to enjoy blind more, since it can be strategically placed to make safe zones to get around an enemy. It also makes the enemies lose track of you, so that's a big plus also.

The stun rig seems to be decent on all the grunts, but when it comes to the assets (Officer and Gooseberry), it seems to be weaker and make them more aggressive afterwards, so it's a nice, quick getaway in dead ends, but overall, I'd say blind is better.

[Void Banana]

@frosty, when you said it lets you see items through walls, is that a base feature or an upgrade?

[X4p4ck]

Originally posted by Dragon_Dude1:

I heard from someone the stun makes the AI go into some sort of rage mode or something, idk if its true or not, but the blind gives a smoke screen that you can actually sit inside and not be visible to enemies. I perfer the X-ray, like the comment above.

it used to in the closed beta i think they yeeted that off

[Elf]

Enemies no longer go into a rage mode, their eyes during the closed beta glowed a vibrant red and streaked when they walked around trying to find you after they have recovered. They had an increased movement speed and stun mitigation as far as I remember. I hope it does make a return because you can really make a fool out of enemies.

When it comes to rigs, the best one is the Blind Landmine. Preventative damage is always superior to taking damage and rewards strategy accompanied with map knowledge. Or you could use it just like the stun anyway infront of an enemies face. It is useful not in just one specialization like the other rigs, but with all of them. I used it during the beta and believed it would be even stronger in the full game and I am baffled how this was even allowed to be that good. It's just a shame that this was the one rig I used from the start because now when I go use the other ones they just feel redundant and in need of similar rig altering buffs like how you get Frenzy and an additional proc from the landmine after use... Anyway here's some examples.

Someone is down? Drop the landmine on them and if enemies come near they'll get stunned giving you enough time to heal and recover for the duration of the smoke. Even if they might be downed far away they can crawl to the smoke and any enemy that approaches it will be stunned.

Annoying objective that has your teammates hopping around turns pushing an objective? Put the landmine beneath the area and you can make all difficult holdout sections easy. This is including escape sections that trivializes the intense sections.

Need to carry a heavy object but you know you'll get tuckered out quickly and alert enemies? Bait enemies into your trap and even without the Frenzy upgrade you'll still have more than enough time to book it where you need to put the heavy object.

Did you notice someone's Blind going off and need to escape a chase? Run into the cloud and the enemy will instantly lose you.

This rig is so absurdly good that I've carried teams as the only player with it, it just has the best versatility overall.

[Dragon_Dude1]

Originally posted by PovKetz:

I'd say in terms of overall usefulness, the Mines are simply unmatched. As stated above the cloud makes you completely invisible, but I don't think Dragon_Dude1 really emphasized just how good it is. Any and all actions done inside the cloud are completely silent. For example you can place the mine down between two of the switches for the Snitch, have the Warden trigger it, and then just sit on the switches for the solid 15+ seconds the smoke lasts for, easily completing any objective you need. This applies for anything really, generators, Radios, reviving a teammate right next to the big bad.

The smoke is unbelievably useful, to the point that it'll likely get nerfed. Stun is good while being chased, while mine let's you preemptively place a mine behind you, start cranking a generator or the long valves you need to turn, and it'll protect ya and give you a smoke screen to easily let you finish the task.

I've never used the smoke rig so I didn't know all that, so this is really useful information.

[Rezzuu]

Blind rig all the way. blinds them for about 20 seconds, gives speed and stamina boost inside the smoke and activates 2 times in a row while stun rig is like a mere 8 seconds of stun? or less? Went into a full team of 4 blind rigs did program x, speedran the living ♥♥♥♥ out of it

[Void Banana]

Originally posted by Frosty:

Been using the X-ray rig personally. Can find items easier, can find documents and posters. Later upgrades can recharge your night vision whenever you use it. Can high light enemies and stuff for team mates. Helps you find objective items quicker.

When you said the xray rig shows you where posters are, is that an upgrade or base feature?

[Ｔｅｎｓｅｎｕｍａ]

Stun 100%
It's a good escape shuttle tool especially for harder difficulties where you can stack rig recharge
Blind is okay, but when you're being chased hard everyone trying to escape you don't exactly have time to set one up (although idk how many you can have on the ground at once incase you place one as you spawn)

[PovKetz]

Originally posted by The Cobbler:

Originally posted by Frosty:

Been using the X-ray rig personally. Can find items easier, can find documents and posters. Later upgrades can recharge your night vision whenever you use it. Can high light enemies and stuff for team mates. Helps you find objective items quicker.

When you said the xray rig shows you where posters are, is that an upgrade or base feature?

It's the Tier 4 upgrade for the X-ray rig

[Void Banana]

Originally posted by PovKetz:

Originally posted by The Cobbler:

When you said the xray rig shows you where posters are, is that an upgrade or base feature?

It's the Tier 4 upgrade for the X-ray rig

ok thanks