Red Barrels lesson being learned...

[{|Octavian|}]

Ya know, I know outlast trials, a online game that plans on being live service is red barrels' first project like it, but I think they're currently learning that in order to have a good live service game, you'll need constant communication with the community regarding content updates, and not be reclusive like they usually are.

Because Im starting to agree if this whole "keep quiet as ♥♥♥♥ until launch of new major update" practice is what they plan on doing, then thats gonna do more harm then good in terms of keeping concurrent playerbase.

Its very worrying that this may be something we'll have to deal with for every future major update coming forward, even after the full launch of the game. Knowing their perfectionist attitude(which of course isnt a bad thing for the game, but is in terms of relevancy)

But thats just my opinion.

[Wankershim]

Your opinion is objectively wrong.

[{|Octavian|}]

引用自 Wankershim：

Your opinion is objectively wrong.

only one way to find out is to see who can take ♥♥♥♥ the best

you or me

[Blaudari]

I'm gonna have to agree with you, they need to be transparent because speculations & false rumors could start spreading, idk if it's going to by a live service game but i can't say for sure, it would suck if they charged $30 - $60 for the game then have another $20 for season pass 1 with some microtransaction lootboxes or to get premium stuff.
I get it but that doesn't usually end very well.

[{|Octavian|}]

引用自 Blaudari：

I'm gonna have to agree with you, they need to be transparent because speculations & false rumors could start spreading, idk if it's going to by a live service game but i can't say for sure, it would suck if they charged $30 - $60 for the game then have another $20 for season pass 1 with some microtransaction lootboxes or to get premium stuff.
I get it but that doesn't usually end very well.

saying it as live service is more so implying it'll receive routinely content updates much like tf2 before valve neglected it. It's not a game that'll survive on gameplay loops alone(cause it barely has any to begin with).

Hell, making program x a weekly randomized set of challenges would significantly prolong its gameplay loop survival span.

[Blaudari]

引用自 {|Octavian|}：

引用自 Blaudari：

I'm gonna have to agree with you, they need to be transparent because speculations & false rumors could start spreading, idk if it's going to by a live service game but i can't say for sure, it would suck if they charged $30 - $60 for the game then have another $20 for season pass 1 with some microtransaction lootboxes or to get premium stuff.
I get it but that doesn't usually end very well.

saying it as live service is more so implying it'll receive routinely content updates much like tf2 before valve neglected it. It's not a game that'll survive on gameplay loops alone(cause it barely has any to begin with).

Hell, making program x a weekly randomized set of challenges would significantly prolong its gameplay loop survival span.

Oh okay & i heavily agree, they need to do something it won't last long & i don't think they'll make much money in the future if it's kept like this.

[Mad Hatter]

Have you checked out the Discord? The RB team isn't reclusive, they just don't use the Steam forums.

[Blaudari]

引用自 Mad Hatter：

Have you checked out the Discord? The RB team isn't reclusive, they just don't use the Steam forums.

oh, i actually didn't know they had discord tbh.

[Mad Hatter]

引用自 Blaudari：

引用自 Mad Hatter：

Have you checked out the Discord? The RB team isn't reclusive, they just don't use the Steam forums.

oh, i actually didn't know they had discord tbh.

They do and it's got a pretty active community. I use it quite a bit and frequently see several members of the RB team interacting with us. Zinc in particular likes to hang out in the chats and shoot the ♥♥♥♥.

There's a lot more info to be found there. The game seems dead/dying if you're only seeing the Steam forums, but that's only because a lot of us migrated to the Discord server.

[Blaudari]

oh yeah, joined the discord just now, it's so active & there's 2 squads in the Voice chat in discord playing.

[{|Octavian|}]

引用自 Mad Hatter：

Have you checked out the Discord? The RB team isn't reclusive, they just don't use the Steam forums.

reclusive in terms of public posting, like sure the devs themselves are active, I'm sure, but like no roadmap, a post regarding plans that dont involve a news article to tell you(like recently regarding the upcoming sleep room activities).

Common player folk usually cant be bothered to join a discord. But eh, just hope we get something concrete soon.

[kenneth]

引用自 itzDerrio：

so far, its a shame that i wasted my money on this. cant remember the last time i played this, im still on the first level due to no save points solo, but i was barely enjoying it even then. a outlast 3 is much more preferred.

there is no saving point because levels are quick, you have infinite life so you can finish the level without worrying about losing all progress

[Mad Hatter]

引用自 {|Octavian|}：

引用自 Mad Hatter：

Have you checked out the Discord? The RB team isn't reclusive, they just don't use the Steam forums.

reclusive in terms of public posting, like sure the devs themselves are active, I'm sure, but like no roadmap, a post regarding plans that dont involve a news article to tell you(like recently regarding the upcoming sleep room activities).

Common player folk usually cant be bothered to join a discord. But eh, just hope we get something concrete soon.

What do you mean by "public posting"? They did an actual interview about a month ago, and are active in their Discord server. The Steam forums don't count as "public posting".

"Common player folk"
Not sure what you mean by that. I'm a casual (and fairly asocial) gamer who hates Discord but I still use it for several things. I literally don't know anybody that plays games that doesn't use Discord for one thing or another, and my social circle ranges from 20-60yo gamers. This is a you problem. The information is out there, but you don't want to put in the effort to find it. Not all devs use the Steam forums as their primary means of communication. Red Barrels, and the Outlast franchise, are both popular enough to have a much larger community than you'll find posting here.

[{|Octavian|}]

引用自 Mad Hatter：

引用自 {|Octavian|}：

reclusive in terms of public posting, like sure the devs themselves are active, I'm sure, but like no roadmap, a post regarding plans that dont involve a news article to tell you(like recently regarding the upcoming sleep room activities).

Common player folk usually cant be bothered to join a discord. But eh, just hope we get something concrete soon.

What do you mean by "public posting"? They did an actual interview about a month ago, and are active in their Discord server. The Steam forums don't count as "public posting".

"Common player folk"
Not sure what you mean by that. I'm a casual (and fairly asocial) gamer who hates Discord but I still use it for several things. I literally don't know anybody that plays games that doesn't use Discord for one thing or another, and my social circle ranges from 20-60yo gamers. This is a you problem. The information is out there, but you don't want to put in the effort to find it. Not all devs use the Steam forums as their primary means of communication. Red Barrels, and the Outlast franchise, are both popular enough to have a much larger community than you'll find posting here.

eh fair enough

[Player6821]

Has anyone here done their survey? the developers ask for you feedback on what you might want from Outlast: Trials. Give them a proper criticism, they can only do so much without feedback. and if they choose to ignore it well....another company that ignores their player base. However I highly encourage anyone who has played the game for more than 50 hours to do the survey and give proper feedback vs just saying wahhh the game sucks, big L, blah blah.

[{|Octavian|}]

引用自 IV：

Has anyone here done their survey? the developers ask for you feedback on what you might want from Outlast: Trials. Give them a proper criticism, they can only do so much without feedback. and if they choose to ignore it well....another company that ignores their player base. However I highly encourage anyone who has played the game for more than 50 hours to do the survey and give proper feedback vs just saying wahhh the game sucks, big L, blah blah.

true!