Is this project still alive?

[kestar]

Why so little communication? Is this game still being developed? Why don’t the devs share more material? The fans are hungry.

[SKN The LISPer]

Originally posted by Cenotaph:

Originally posted by Zyddie:

If you want a good game, it takes time.

//Zyddie

If after 2-3 years it still early, then this project is already in trouble or they have very few resources to get things done.

True, good thing the game hasn't been in development for 2-3 years. It entered pre-production in 2020, and true full development most likely started somewhere around 2021, so it's been about 1 year of active development.

My guess is, we'll start to see gameplay reveals around 2023, and an actual release somewhere around Q4 2024 - Q3 2025.

[T-Moor]

Originally posted by Cenotaph:

Originally posted by Zyddie:

If you want a good game, it takes time.

//Zyddie

If after 2-3 years it still early, then this project is already in trouble or they have very few resources to get things done.

There are no problems with development. Everything goes as we planned =)

[Dagg]

Originally posted by fresh niubbo:

it's true or is fake as hell? release at 31/12/2022? i can't believe it, it must be some sort of joke...

peace dudes

99% of the time when a company uses the last day of the year as a release date it is being used simply as a place holder and is not going to be the actual release date.

[Nobody19666]

well, this game could be THE game forthe next 10 years... it's a disaster the situation now: after red dead redemption 2 no one single good game has exited so far, only high priced trash but it's not so bad: better 2 years of await more and a good game than 2 years less and a huger pile of crap like it was gothic 3 and 4

[Rammstein]

People complain about developement taking too long, people complain about games being released too early/ buggy. I totally get why devs tend to ignore people. LOL

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by Valtaras:

People complain about developement taking too long, people complain about games being released too early/ buggy. I totally get why devs tend to ignore people. LOL

People are upset by unrealistic extremes. Releasing a game that obviously isn't ready isn't good, but being Star Citizen leaves you a joke too, especially since after a certain point you'll never release good enough to have been worth the wait and will have to deal with lots of problems, like technology and graphics outpacing your development so you "omg the most advanced game ever" ends up looking like a last gen joke.

[soulcrasher91]

Are you guys not on the gothic community discord?> loads of info there, they talk about it daily. not too long ago there even was a real time ask and answer intervieuw and a bunch of stuff came to light, like the fact that helmets very likely wont be in the game even though EVERYONE wants it :P

[SKN The LISPer]

Originally posted by soulcrasher91:

Are you guys not on the gothic community discord?> loads of info there, they talk about it daily. not too long ago there even was a real time ask and answer intervieuw and a bunch of stuff came to light, like the fact that helmets very likely wont be in the game even though EVERYONE wants it :P

Nope, don't use Discord and never will, and this is a pretty common sentiment. Discord users are an minority (same as Twitter). Why devs refuse to use the Steam forums (also a minority, but far higher chance of reaching new potentional customers) and instead insist on social media platforms I'll never understand.

[Rammstein]

Originally posted by SKN The LISPer:

Originally posted by soulcrasher91:

Are you guys not on the gothic community discord?> loads of info there, they talk about it daily. not too long ago there even was a real time ask and answer intervieuw and a bunch of stuff came to light, like the fact that helmets very likely wont be in the game even though EVERYONE wants it :P

Nope, don't use Discord and never will, and this is a pretty common sentiment. Discord users are an minority (same as Twitter). Why devs refuse to use the Steam forums (also a minority, but far higher chance of reaching new potentional customers) and instead insist on social media platforms I'll never understand.

Same goes for me. If somebody wants to sell his game on Steam, then communicate on Steam. Im not willing to add 100 discord servers to watch upcoming games... lol

[T-Moor]

Originally posted by Valtaras:

Originally posted by SKN The LISPer:

Nope, don't use Discord and never will, and this is a pretty common sentiment. Discord users are an minority (same as Twitter). Why devs refuse to use the Steam forums (also a minority, but far higher chance of reaching new potentional customers) and instead insist on social media platforms I'll never understand.

Same goes for me. If somebody wants to sell his game on Steam, then communicate on Steam. Im not willing to add 100 discord servers to watch upcoming games... lol

We post main news on Steam and Twitter, but the main discussions are on Discord.
Anyway, if you want to join our Discord - discord.gg/gothic

[SKN The LISPer]

Originally posted by Valtaras:

Originally posted by SKN The LISPer:

Nope, don't use Discord and never will, and this is a pretty common sentiment. Discord users are an minority (same as Twitter). Why devs refuse to use the Steam forums (also a minority, but far higher chance of reaching new potentional customers) and instead insist on social media platforms I'll never understand.

Same goes for me. If somebody wants to sell his game on Steam, then communicate on Steam. Im not willing to add 100 discord servers to watch upcoming games... lol

Yeah, Kynseed recently came out "complaining" that people apperantly didn't get the memo\information they put out, as they were sharing all their info on Discord or Twitter, which just reinforce that it really is a minority that use these platforms for game-related info.

Discord\Twitter has about the same amount of users and engagement as self-hosted forums used to, but the nature of these platforms and how communication is done, make it seem like there's more of them. Steam always have\had an higher user retention than that of self-hosted forums when looking at it from single platform percpective, which is why so many devs stopped making those forums.

To then go to an less-efficient for information retainment social media platform is just mind boggling to me. It's like we're back to the age of mailing lists...

[Isterio]

I agree that a good game that takes a long time is preferable to a rushed release.

That said, does it HAVE to say "coming soon", when it clearly will take a long time still? It's such a tease in my wishlist.

[Nico]

Originally posted by Isterio:

I agree that a good game that takes a long time is preferable to a rushed release.

That said, does it HAVE to say "coming soon", when it clearly will take a long time still? It's such a tease in my wishlist.

Yeah, I agree on that. My personal guess is that the "Coming Soon" is simply the default message and since they have no idea when it will release they simply didn't thought about changing the message, exactly because they had no idea what to write. It's still rather weird that they are fine with the Coming Soon. Maybe they just didn't notice it somehow?

[T-Moor]

Originally posted by Nico:

Originally posted by Isterio:

I agree that a good game that takes a long time is preferable to a rushed release.

That said, does it HAVE to say "coming soon", when it clearly will take a long time still? It's such a tease in my wishlist.

Yeah, I agree on that. My personal guess is that the "Coming Soon" is simply the default message and since they have no idea when it will release they simply didn't thought about changing the message, exactly because they had no idea what to write. It's still rather weird that they are fine with the Coming Soon. Maybe they just didn't notice it somehow?

Almost every game with no release date has such a status. "Coming soon" is a very stretching term =)
There is no release date, so we can work calmly with no pressure and have a perfect game on release. When we will be sure, that game is perfect and ready for the players, we will publish the release date.

[Nightmarian]

Originally posted by T-Moor:

Originally posted by Nico:

Yeah, I agree on that. My personal guess is that the "Coming Soon" is simply the default message and since they have no idea when it will release they simply didn't thought about changing the message, exactly because they had no idea what to write. It's still rather weird that they are fine with the Coming Soon. Maybe they just didn't notice it somehow?

Almost every game with no release date has such a status. "Coming soon" is a very stretching term =)
There is no release date, so we can work calmly with no pressure and have a perfect game on release. When we will be sure, that game is perfect and ready for the players, we will publish the release date.

In January, Valve is going to stop slapping devs that toy with release dates like they rightfully should, so it should be more uniform and the "coming soon" list should actually start to make sense.