The Performance is a joke , right?

[Nutellalöffler]

I play on 4070ti Super and in other Games i have no Problems but that Gothic Demo.... the preset over Gothic is just a joke, Frames from only 33+ fps ????

on Presett Gothic i get over 100 for sure but all in all the Performance is ja bad joke. You should optimize more

[Rageoverrun]

I wonder if it's an issue with the 4000 series. I have a 4070 TI Super as well, playing Avowed with everything maxxed out just fine on 1440p. However, this demo is running like a slide show. I love the Gothic series, but this is completely unplayable for me, unfortunately.

[Seklero]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ransom:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Katharina_Luvré:

So I tried to "optimize" an unoptimized game and I really need to put EVERYTHING on low to get stable 60 FPS. If I want to get a DECENT performance, everything needs to be medium, but there are a lot of drops below 60 FPS.
Only using 50% scaling "fixes" the performance in any way. And the "there is no DLSS, FSR, XESS" or anything else in the demo is a horrible excuse. Even Palworld had that added on day one.
Big companies are only ultra lazy and think "oh, it's fine to have below 60 FPS, 30 is more than enough..."-bs...
Cyberpunk 2077 was the first game with this horrible excuse and from there on everyone goes like "I made an unoptimized game, the AI will fix it for me..."
A game should be at least playable at 1440p with a 1K€ GPU. 4K is a nice bonus, but this game is another Diablo IV BS-Game that limits you to native resolution.
Never seen that BS in old games, only the new ones does that...
Geez, if you can't get a decent performance, then please fix the game first. And those issue accures most of the time with UE5 games. But it's common nowadays that games runs with 20 FPS like in 4k, 30 FPS in 1440p and 60 FPS at 1080p. This is simply horrible and need to stop. I don't want to buy a NASA-PC to simply game and I bet even a 5090 won't hit 60 FPS again.

graphics quality like a from 2010 and high fps or high end graphics quality with 1080p@60fps... you cant have both

You can. Just launch KCD2. But when you launch UE5 game...
All UE5 games look terrible and runs terrible, and there's no excuse for that.

[DeRossa]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Seklero:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ransom:

graphics quality like a from 2010 and high fps or high end graphics quality with 1080p@60fps... you cant have both

You can. Just launch KCD2. But when you launch UE5 game...
All UE5 games look terrible and runs terrible, and there's no excuse for that.

KCD2 is beutiful even on low graphics.

Here this Unreal 5 engine is butchering the game, black pixels, ghosting everywhere, ♥♥♥♥ perforamnce.

I dont get it why they are obsessed with UE5.

[Seklero]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Motorola:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Seklero:

You can. Just launch KCD2. But when you launch UE5 game...
All UE5 games look terrible and runs terrible, and there's no excuse for that.

KCD2 is beutiful even on low graphics.

Here this Unreal 5 engine is butchering the game, black pixels, ghosting everywhere, ♥♥♥♥ perforamnce.

I dont get it why they are obsessed with UE5.

Most people happy with this blurry mess graphics. Or they just don't see the problem. That why we are here now in that exact situation.

[CalamdÜmr]

20 secs and i unistalled. for real where is the demand coming from ?
i've played better look games with way way less powerfull hardware in the past. WTF IS GOING ON with this industry.
for F* sake.
texture.model,ilumination everything is so F basic and yet its a F* low fps fest.

[KyuKyu]

75% resolution, 3070Q and 6800H, medium settings - 40fps..... I get that this is a demo, but performance is extremely bad for what is supposed to be a small polished experience. Like, piece of junk that is STALKER 2 ran MUCH better on my laptop

[devlos]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Chris:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von eXo_O:

Stop crying its just a sneak peak just lower the settings and have 10 min fun with it lol

Dude... why are you letting developers get away with this?
10-15 years ago demos were done way better.

This IS a joke for modern standards.

True.

Back then it had to be functional , playable and burned on a disc for everyone to see. That random disc in a breakfeast box from 13 years ago was a more functional demo then this mess on a old dell desktop. The current state in the industry is sad , anything that is a industry standard is just bad these days as there is a alternative that is always 3x times better. I mean take a look at Autocad/Autodesk 3D and then to Blender aswell for example.

I don't want to be rude to these developers , but you can't release a public demo that runs this bad and consider anyone giving positive feedback when there is nothing positive about a game barely anyone can run since everything positive is all mechanicly put into despair with it.

[Nutellalöffler]

The internal upscaler doesn't do anything for me. However I set TSR, it doesn't really bring any FPS increase

[Tiuty]

i got around 70fps on a 3090 on gothic and 25-30 on the max guess 4070ti is just ♥♥♥♥ :D

[Nutellalöffler]

Na na nanot the 4070Ti S is crap this Game Built optimization is Crap ;-) I play Black Myth Wukong on Ultra + Pathtracing on without FG almost average till 80 fps ;-) But its realy strange, some People got so much Trouble in Perfromance and others doesnt have any Problems with This Gothic Built Version

[billybolly26]

35 fps on 9800x3d and 4080 super

[AttilaTheHoon]

My GPU Hotspot went immediately to 80 °C got me scared for my rtx 4090 for a minute there, game doesnt look bad, what i've seen is promising but it still needs lots work done and i hope they atleast bring in dlss 4 and frame gen for better performance...

[Maximum997]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Motorola:

I dont get it why they are obsessed with UE5.

Because it is super ez to make UE5 game that looks decent. You don't need any skill for that.

BTW what TRX means? Is it upscaler?
Is it true that game has such crappy performance with upscaling?

[Guybrush]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von TROOPER181st:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wadowicki Goblin:

I have over 60 FPS on old GTX 1070, IDK what are you smoking

High End gamers dont game in 60fps anymore .. thats the bare minimum of the mininum.
120fps or higher are nowadays more the norm. Once you see the difference you never want to go back to 60 fps.

its a new desease? Not every game I need 120fps.

[Gestaltenwandlerin]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Guybrush:

its a new desease? Not every game I need 120fps.

I don't need any fancy 120 FPS, heck, I'm fine if I don't get 60 FPS.
But at least 30 FPS should be possible, but Gothic Remake only runs at 20 FPS unless I activate "artifacts mode", which again, is a problem with UE5, never ever had I played one game that runs fine with it.
And for those BS programers that think release a game without an option to change the resolution itself, it's not my problem. I'm stuck to 4K, same as Diablo IV did before. Only difference, Diablo IV runs maxed out on average 60 FPS with some drops to the 30s. On Gothic 1 Remake it's 20 FPS average and I bet the lows are 5 or so...
Indie game developers hit always 60 at least and ever Triple A Team is like, "24 FPS average is good performance"-Bs...