This is a Reboot not a Remake

[リアンダ]

I just watched another interview with a journalist from the German Gamestar magazine discussing the remake. There they presented a ton of new video footage, talked about hiring new voice actors, adding additional content, etc.

After what I've seen and heard I have now come to the conclusion that this is Game is a reboot and not a remake. The same artistic liberty that was taken when re-imagining creatures seems to permeate the entire game. Just look at locations like the troll canyon if you don't know what I mean. https://www.gamestar.de/videos/grafikvergleich-das-gothic-remake-verleiht-legendaeren-orte-des-minentals-neuen-glanz,133763.html

Anyway, Alkimia obviously can't help themselves making this game their own rather than focussing on a faithful graphical update à la Diablo Resurrected. They couldn't when working on the playable teaser and they still can't now.

This isn't necessarily bad or anything but I would recommend old school fans to brace for impact. There's a good chance that, beyond surface level similartities, you'll be playing an entirely new game. Make of that what you will.

[Moon mission captain]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remake

Story is the same, better explained, they worked on fixing plotholes and expanding the war between 2 camps as well as the orcs.

They added plenty of things, including things that were cut out of the original due to lack of time and money.

I expect this game to be better than the original as long as technically it is not another Gothic 3. I should mention original is my second favorite game.

[Spardacus]

Is a Remake, just like Resident Evil 2 /3/4 Remake.
Example: Virtua Fighter 6 will be a Reboot called Virtua Fighter.

[リアンダ]

引用自 Moon mission captain：

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remake

Story is the same, better explained, they worked on fixing plotholes and expanding the war between 2 camps as well as the orcs.

They added plenty of things, including things that were cut out of the original due to lack of time and money.

I expect this game to be better than the original as long as technically it is not another Gothic 3. I should mention original is my second favorite game.

From the very same wikipedia article you quoted:

"A similar but not synonymous term is reimagining, which indicates a greater discrepancy between, for example, a movie and the movie it is based on."

Now what counts as a "greater discrepancy"? That's arguably up to debate. But if I as a longtime fan who knows every square inch of the colony by heart could not recognize general Lee or the troll canyon on their own merits than we are no longer in remake territory. We know what faithful remakes look like (Destroy all Humans, Diablo Resurrected), we know remakes with slight changes (Mafia, Silent Hill remake) and then there's remakes that are so different in their approach that one might as well call them a reboot (Tomb Raider 2013, Doom 2016). If the visual's are any indication we will see significant changes in every aspect of the game.

[リアンダ]

引用自 Spardacus：

Is a Remake, just like Resident Evil 2 /3/4 Remake.
Example: Virtua Fighter 6 will be a Reboot called Virtua Fighter.

Why is virtua fighter 6 a reboot and re:4 a remake in your oppinion?

[Spiffington]

A reboot is what I want. I'm playing Gothic 1 on switch currently and it's very empty. There is little to see but lots of talking. I want more stuff to explore. Years ago I almost completed Gothic 1 but the emptiness problem was there again, maybe in chapter 3. Nothing to kill, long walks to try and trigger quests etc. Gothic 2 and Risen 1 I must have completed half a dozen times due to a more densely packed world.

[リアンダ]

引用自 Spiffington：

A reboot is what I want. I'm playing Gothic 1 on switch currently and it's very empty. There is little to see but lots of talking. I want more stuff to explore. Years ago I almost completed Gothic 1 but the emptiness problem was there again, maybe in chapter 3. Nothing to kill, long walks to try and trigger quests etc. Gothic 2 and Risen 1 I must have completed half a dozen times due to a more densely packed world.

I agree but for a different reason. I've played this game so many times I'm ready to explore something new. I just wish they'd not pretend to be a remake and constantly nostaliga bait and instead focus their marketing more on what's new and unfamiliar. Like show us an OC orc character (which there will probably be a lot of), show us a new magic spell or a location that wasn't included in the original. I want this game to succeed and part of that is setting the right expectations imo.

[Bill_Galactic_Hero]

引用自 リアンダ：

Just look at locations like the troll canyon if you don't know what I mean. https://www.gamestar.de/videos/grafikvergleich-das-gothic-remake-verleiht-legendaeren-orte-des-minentals-neuen-glanz,133763.html

It looks claustrophobic compared to the original. There's not enough space between all those hills.

[kestar]

Troll canyon looked like nothing in the original. It’s as just a flat plain with some mobs in it. That’s it. It’s as boring as it gets, but people view it with nostalgia cause they were kids when they played the original game and were easily impressed.

Now the location gets a makeover so it looks like something finally. Some ruins, looking like a temple. But the community complains, why can’t we have our crappy flat featureless area?

[fracs]

引用自 kestar：

why can’t we have our crappy flat featureless area?

Truly why? Why every cave, zone etc has to be special now? Do you also expect to find a loot chest in every corner just because you made "an effort" to go there? Original game was unique in many ways and had the strongest atmoshere among all Gothic games and now it will be like just another generic rpg with dodgerolls.

[Dramatic_Effect]

troll canyon was special already, there's the ritual site where you find one of the foci.
Adding some additional infrastructure beyond that isn't that big a change.
Those little altars holding the foci look too old to have been built for the errecting of the barrier, makes sense to me that more would have been built.

[kestar]

引用自 fracs：

引用自 kestar：

why can’t we have our crappy flat featureless area?

Truly why? Why every cave, zone etc has to be special now? Do you also expect to find a loot chest in every corner just because you made "an effort" to go there? Original game was unique in many ways and had the strongest atmoshere among all Gothic games and now it will be like just another generic rpg with dodgerolls.

Cause it’s a video game and cool looking locations are fun? Why does the colony have to look like a cloudy drab rainy day in Northern Germany?

Many areas in the OG game looked featureless because the game was rushed and they had no time.

[リアンダ]

引用自 kestar：

Troll canyon looked like nothing in the original. It’s as just a flat plain with some mobs in it. That’s it. It’s as boring as it gets, but people view it with nostalgia cause they were kids when they played the original game and were easily impressed.

Now the location gets a makeover so it looks like something finally. Some ruins, looking like a temple. But the community complains, why can’t we have our crappy flat featureless area?

Stop strawmanning. Nobody said you can't or shouldn't make this area more interesting. But you still need to stay true to the identity of the original setpiece.

[kestar]

引用自 リアンダ：

引用自 kestar：

Troll canyon looked like nothing in the original. It’s as just a flat plain with some mobs in it. That’s it. It’s as boring as it gets, but people view it with nostalgia cause they were kids when they played the original game and were easily impressed.

Now the location gets a makeover so it looks like something finally. Some ruins, looking like a temple. But the community complains, why can’t we have our crappy flat featureless area?

Stop strawmanning. Nobody said you can't or shouldn't make this area more interesting. But you still need to stay true to the identity of the original setpiece.

How is what Alkimia did against the identity of the original game? Why can’t that be the ruins of some Sleeper worshipping site for example? It would be a lot more interesting that just flat ground with nothing in it except some mobs.

[Dramatic_Effect]

doesn't look like Orkish architecture to me, especially those statues.
Must be human

[リアンダ]

引用自 kestar：

引用自 リアンダ：

Stop strawmanning. Nobody said you can't or shouldn't make this area more interesting. But you still need to stay true to the identity of the original setpiece.

How is what Alkimia did against the identity of the original game? Why can’t that be the ruins of some Sleeper worshipping site for example? It would be a lot more interesting that just flat ground with nothing in it except some mobs.

If I take the swamp camp and turn it into a gothic monestary it might fit into the game but the swamp camp will lose its identity and there already is a monestary in the game. It's the same with the troll canyon.