Gothic 1 Remake

Gothic 1 Remake

The Male/Man Mar 15, 2021 @ 6:16pm
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First person mode?
Would be more my style.
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The Male/Man Mar 15, 2021 @ 7:14pm 
Uh, then what's Skyrim?
The Male/Man Mar 15, 2021 @ 11:42pm 
Well, either way, the reason I got Gothic 3 is because it had a first person view.

If they think they can get it right here, that'll be the reason I purchase.
Tuco Mar 15, 2021 @ 11:46pm 
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Gothic 3 was garbage.
And I've never seen a single game with "optional camera" where at least one of the two wasn't complete trash.
But often both options.

I'll vote for "Stick to one thing and try to do it properly".
Which for a Gothic remake must mean third person camera.
Last edited by Tuco; Mar 15, 2021 @ 11:47pm
The Male/Man Mar 15, 2021 @ 11:50pm 
Then stick with what you like. I still hope they add an "experimental" first person in the console commands like they did with 3.
Last edited by The Male/Man; Mar 15, 2021 @ 11:51pm
The Male/Man Mar 16, 2021 @ 12:45am 
Well, if we don't remind developers that there's a lot of first person lovers ready to throw dosh, third person games will flood the new releases.
Tuco Mar 16, 2021 @ 1:01am 
Well, the questionable suggestion was made.
Everyone and their grandmother is pointing that it would probably be a terrible idea.
OP doesn't want to hear any of it and insists it would be awesome.

I don't think there's much more to say on this topic.
Time to unsubscribe the thread, I guess.
The Male/Man Mar 16, 2021 @ 1:08am 
Hey, at-least I was respectful about it. No need to be a Toxic Tuco.

I just left my opinion respectfully.
Last edited by The Male/Man; Mar 16, 2021 @ 1:11am
DeadlyBGShadow Mar 17, 2021 @ 4:27am 
First Person View was possible in Gothic games before:
Gothic First Person View
If they implement it like this it's a start.

I would personally like to see it In-game as an Option and if they implement it with VR perspective in mind (Proportion/Size and 6DOF) it will bring new experience to the game.

Playing the Demo and watching Diego in the Dialog Scene made it very convincing.
Diego First Person View Scene
And if done right Easy transition between Third Person and First is possible.
The Intro Scene was all in Cinematic perspective and then it adjusted to 3rd POV the same can be done for 1st POV. Cinematic to 3rd POV

Aside from the Easy to do Interaction(Not needing big change), Combat will be the difficult part (Removing/Reducing all nauseating effects caused by excessive camera motion during attack and defense sequences). If not applicable In 1st Person, 3rd Person for Combat is plausible.
Combat POV

In all honesty it does not need to be all perfect in order to bring pleasure for all people deciding to replay the Remake in VR.
Last edited by DeadlyBGShadow; Mar 17, 2021 @ 4:46am
MATEJZAO Mar 17, 2021 @ 4:56am 
I like optional 1st and 3rd in RPGs, however I would rather have them make it properly for one or the other.
DeadlyBGShadow Mar 17, 2021 @ 5:41am 
No One wants a Broken Game.
That said... Relaying a Game View of the game is an easy process done by the game engine and can easily be made possible using Console Commands if enabled by the Developers.
Such Commands can be added in the Options Menu as well if deemed suitable by the Developer.(First Person Camera Position)
It's something that is possible by old games like Counter Strike and it is certainly possible for Gothic Remake.
Gothic Remake Free Camera

Fixed First Person View 3DOF is Possible to add if deemed suitable by Devs.
Example 1
Example 2
Example 3

Implementation for Partial VR Support by 6DOF Camera movement plausible.
Provided they make the Game Engine Work With VR API like OpenXR.
(For it to start to communicate Image and controls to Headset).
Full VR is a different story and is just a Dream Option that will Certainly needs Time and Bigger Investment implementing in the game.


Update:
Turns out they use Unreal Engine 4.
The same Engine used in Handful of VR Games.
The UE4 already support it.
It is possible, Provided they have the Budget and "Green Light" to do it.
Last edited by DeadlyBGShadow; Mar 17, 2021 @ 12:36pm
The Male/Man Mar 17, 2021 @ 11:14am 
Wow.
Originally posted by Tuco:
Gothic 3 was garbage.
Replayability of Gothic 3 is the highest of all three Gothic games. While melee combat with stun-locking may not be everyone's cup of tea, the magicians in Gothic 3 are the most entertaining magic users in the series of games. That's because of mana regeneration, seeking missiles and high-level AoE spells.

Fire magician in Gothic 3:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/39500/discussions/0/2145343824283615216/

Compared with the first two Gothic games, it was also Gothic 3 that introduced the next generation Genome engine which implements a seamless open world. Absolutely golden when it comes to replayability, free roaming and meta-gaming, too.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2396428082
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2396427922
Last edited by D'amarr from Darshiva; Jan 28, 2023 @ 6:05am
Rune_Thor Feb 23, 2023 @ 9:37am 
Originally posted by The Male/Man:
Would be more my style.


No thx it's a waste of time and resources for the developers. And there isn't many 1st person RPG players anyway...so you aren't really that important
SKN The LISPer Mar 23, 2023 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by DeadlyBGShadow:
Update:
Turns out they use Unreal Engine 4.
The same Engine used in Handful of VR Games.
The UE4 already support it.
It is possible, Provided they have the Budget and "Green Light" to do it.

Every third-person engine, supports first-person and vice-versa. It's not a technical limitation, it's a design-limitation. Gothic 1-3 were designed for third person, but allows you to choose to move the camera to the characters head, and then despawn the body.

Severence: Blade of darkness does the same, but doesn't despawn the body(only the head). First person in both games is a worse experience than third person, as the games aren't designed for it.

100% agree though. Should be possible to do as Gothic 1-3, and place the camera in players head position and despawn the body. 0 development time, and stays true to original.
Laicus Oct 15, 2023 @ 1:12am 
I played Gothic 1-3 with a 1-person view, and I will play a remake only if it has a 1-person view.
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