Nude mod? Anyone working on one?

[Underprivileged White Male]

Just curious. The clothing just makes it too unbelievable to be immersive.

[Lupin III]

Lymmea eredeti hozzászólása:

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

Just curious. The clothing just makes it too unbelievable to be immersive.

Listen - I agree it's weird to project the idea that you're a pervert on you for wanting a mod you feel would add more realism/greater immersion on this specific game, especially since, frankly, the realism of these corpses and how actively dead they look would not turn on anyone who wasn't already a necrophiliac. While it's a theoretical possibility, it's vastly more likely that you want this mod for exactly the reasons you say, and there's no reason people shouldn't take you in good faith on that when discussing this.

(Though I will say that I think your wording may have invited some of these misunderstandings by calling it a "nude mod". That may be the common terminology for those kinds of mods, but almost every other 'nude mod' out there IS explicitly made for and by people who are trying to make their game experience hornier. By using the same terminology, you've unintentionally drawn associations between what you're asking for in this game, and what people ask for - and why - in other games. Had you worded it a different way, you might have gotten more thoughtful responses.)

That said, even engaging with you in 100% good faith - whether or not genitals and breasts are covered in the game, and the manner in which they're covered, IS a very small detail to get hung up on re: suspension of disbelief. I understand wanting to tweak a game experience in minor ways to suit yourself better, but if you're genuinely struggling to enjoy the game over such a minor detail, I think you may be placing way too much importance on extremely trivial aspects of the game. (I would compare it to struggling to enjoy a game because you can't find a glasses-less mod for a character who wears glasses, because you hate how the character looks with glasses that much. Is the rest of the game so un-engrossing for you that this one minor aesthetic issue is enough to ruin the whole thing?)

Mind you, maybe it's not a big a deal to you as your arguing with people in this thread may have made it seem. If the actual importance you place on this has been blown rather out of proportion by your having to defend your position to people who have been making wild assumptions, you can dismiss that whole paragraph.

While there may be more believable ways of covering the corpses(which I wouldn't be opposed to), I do personally prefer them clothed. Partially because (as you've experienced) a lot of players are not mature, and turning the game into Naked Corpse ♥♥♥♥ Amateur Comedy Hour would in fact damage the vibe the game is going for, partially because many of us as players do not have the sensibilities of an actual mortuary assistant and would be kind of bothered by corpse nudity, partially because it feels like a modicum of respect granted to these corpses my own suspension of disbelief is trying to picture as real people who have died, etc. I'm glad you're not arguing for base game corpse nudity, since I think the devs had good reason for making the decision to clothe them. And if someone makes some kind of realism mod so that you can also have the game experience you prefer, more power to you. But it sounds like modding this game isn't going to be particularly easy, so in the likely absence of that kind of mod existing, I'd encourage you to not get hung up on this and enjoy the rest of the game, if possible.

Autopsy Simulator has a nudity toggle and is a serious horror/suspense game. Nobody over in those forums are talking about it being Naked Corpse ♥♥♥♥ Amateur Comedy Hour.

[Underprivileged White Male]

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Lymmea eredeti hozzászólása:

Listen - I agree it's weird to project the idea that you're a pervert on you for wanting a mod you feel would add more realism/greater immersion on this specific game, especially since, frankly, the realism of these corpses and how actively dead they look would not turn on anyone who wasn't already a necrophiliac. While it's a theoretical possibility, it's vastly more likely that you want this mod for exactly the reasons you say, and there's no reason people shouldn't take you in good faith on that when discussing this.

(Though I will say that I think your wording may have invited some of these misunderstandings by calling it a "nude mod". That may be the common terminology for those kinds of mods, but almost every other 'nude mod' out there IS explicitly made for and by people who are trying to make their game experience hornier. By using the same terminology, you've unintentionally drawn associations between what you're asking for in this game, and what people ask for - and why - in other games. Had you worded it a different way, you might have gotten more thoughtful responses.)

That said, even engaging with you in 100% good faith - whether or not genitals and breasts are covered in the game, and the manner in which they're covered, IS a very small detail to get hung up on re: suspension of disbelief. I understand wanting to tweak a game experience in minor ways to suit yourself better, but if you're genuinely struggling to enjoy the game over such a minor detail, I think you may be placing way too much importance on extremely trivial aspects of the game. (I would compare it to struggling to enjoy a game because you can't find a glasses-less mod for a character who wears glasses, because you hate how the character looks with glasses that much. Is the rest of the game so un-engrossing for you that this one minor aesthetic issue is enough to ruin the whole thing?)

Mind you, maybe it's not a big a deal to you as your arguing with people in this thread may have made it seem. If the actual importance you place on this has been blown rather out of proportion by your having to defend your position to people who have been making wild assumptions, you can dismiss that whole paragraph.

While there may be more believable ways of covering the corpses(which I wouldn't be opposed to), I do personally prefer them clothed. Partially because (as you've experienced) a lot of players are not mature, and turning the game into Naked Corpse ♥♥♥♥ Amateur Comedy Hour would in fact damage the vibe the game is going for, partially because many of us as players do not have the sensibilities of an actual mortuary assistant and would be kind of bothered by corpse nudity, partially because it feels like a modicum of respect granted to these corpses my own suspension of disbelief is trying to picture as real people who have died, etc. I'm glad you're not arguing for base game corpse nudity, since I think the devs had good reason for making the decision to clothe them. And if someone makes some kind of realism mod so that you can also have the game experience you prefer, more power to you. But it sounds like modding this game isn't going to be particularly easy, so in the likely absence of that kind of mod existing, I'd encourage you to not get hung up on this and enjoy the rest of the game, if possible.

Autopsy Simulator has a nudity toggle and is a serious horror/suspense game. Nobody over in those forums are talking about it being Naked Corpse ♥♥♥♥ Amateur Comedy Hour.

I'll have to check that one out. Thanks for the heads up.

[Lupin III]

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Autopsy Simulator has a nudity toggle and is a serious horror/suspense game. Nobody over in those forums are talking about it being Naked Corpse ♥♥♥♥ Amateur Comedy Hour.

I'll have to check that one out. Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah, it's another one I've been looking forward to for a long time.. it was supposed to come out last November but they pushed it back to this year.

[Underprivileged White Male]

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

I'll have to check that one out. Thanks for the heads up.

Yeah, it's another one I've been looking forward to for a long time.. it was supposed to come out last November but they pushed it back to this year.

Yeah everyone has their own type of horror. Big fan of that "uncomfortable" factor myself. Does a lot more for me than cheap jump scares, and whatnot the horror genre tends toward.

For me a room full of corpses, in various states of decay, injury, or seemingly just sleeping and some silence is a lot creepier than a series of same'ish people in tighty whities. Just didn't feel it. Had this weird Doom 3, meets Evil Dead, meets a Fruit of the Loop commercial thing going on lol.

[Lupin III]

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah, it's another one I've been looking forward to for a long time.. it was supposed to come out last November but they pushed it back to this year.

Yeah everyone has their own type of horror. Big fan of that "uncomfortable" factor myself. Does a lot more for me than cheap jump scares, and whatnot the horror genre tends toward.

For me a room full of corpses, in various states of decay, injury, or seemingly just sleeping and some silence is a lot creepier than a series of same'ish people in tighty whities. Just didn't feel it. Had this weird Doom 3, meets Evil Dead, meets a Fruit of the Loop commercial thing going on lol.

Yep, that Autopsy of Jane Doe movie had come out right around the time I first heard about these two games, and it wouldn't have been as unnerving if she'd had a modesty towel on her. Nudity just adds this extra element of vulnerability to horror... getting chased around by a corpse is bad, getting chased around by a naked corpse is even worse.

[Underprivileged White Male]

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

Yeah everyone has their own type of horror. Big fan of that "uncomfortable" factor myself. Does a lot more for me than cheap jump scares, and whatnot the horror genre tends toward.

For me a room full of corpses, in various states of decay, injury, or seemingly just sleeping and some silence is a lot creepier than a series of same'ish people in tighty whities. Just didn't feel it. Had this weird Doom 3, meets Evil Dead, meets a Fruit of the Loop commercial thing going on lol.

Yep, that Autopsy of Jane Doe movie had come out right around the time I first heard about these two games, and it wouldn't have been as unnerving if she'd had a modesty towel on her. Nudity just adds this extra element of vulnerability to horror... getting chased around by a corpse is bad, getting chased around by a naked corpse is even worse.

Very good example in that movie. The scalpel down the chest part still makes me flinch lol.

Hell even going back to OG horror with the original Night of the Living Dead the one nude extra made it way creeper. Sure it's dated, but it sold the scene because it took it from "some people with horror makeup to" that's not how a living person acts.

[Shadow]

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Yep, that Autopsy of Jane Doe movie had come out right around the time I first heard about these two games, and it wouldn't have been as unnerving if she'd had a modesty towel on her. Nudity just adds this extra element of vulnerability to horror... getting chased around by a corpse is bad, getting chased around by a naked corpse is even worse.

Very good example in that movie. The scalpel down the chest part still makes me flinch lol.

Hell even going back to OG horror with the original Night of the Living Dead the one nude extra made it way creeper. Sure it's dated, but it sold the scene because it took it from "some people with horror makeup to" that's not how a living person acts.

Apparently Rebecca finds dead corpses comforting.

[Lymmea]

krugg.the.gamer eredeti hozzászólása:

But also keep in mind that the nude mods for pervs are also the realism mods for people who want realism. Wording is everything.

I mean, to be fair, there are some VERY blatant examples of nude mods - in almost any game that has women in it - that have zero percent to do with realism, and are very obvious about this. Whether or not a nude mod adds realism honestly comes down to what kind of game it's in. In this game? Yeah, I could very much accept a nude mod adding realism. In Stardew Valley? We're stretching my suspension of disbelief in real life if we're arguing that having all the female characters walking around town naked all the time is supposed to be ~realism~.

For what it's worth, I would say that how people react to nude mods may also be a product of what kind of games they tend to play, and what kind of nude mods they've seen before. People who've almost solely seen nude mods made for blatantly horny purposes might be so accustomed to that being the intent behind nude mods that they have a hard time accepting that in some games there CAN be a genuine argument for realism made for such things.

Or maybe people who've been subjected to far too many nude mods (again, probably most of them openly horny) are just so fed up with them that they can't trust the concept at all anymore. It's not really fair, but I can sympathize. As someone who likes modding games - including Stardew Valley - I cannot tell you how many people are bizarrely dedicated to adding nudity into games where it absolutely does not fit anything. If you're just looking for cool gameplay mods, and you have to sift through pages upon pages of what amounts to people trying to turn a farming sim into a pixelated porno just to find anything remotely thematic or worthwhile...yeah, it gets grating.

Honestly, I don't judge anyone who wants to customize their game experience in any way. If it doesn't affect my game experience? You do you. It'd be nice, though, if perhaps mod sites like Nexus or the Steam Workshop or anywhere that allows racy mods could make separate categories for said racy mods. They can become really prolific in games with female characters and highly active modding scenes(don't talk to me about going through mods for Final Fantasy VII Remake recently), and for those who AREN'T looking for that kind of thing, it can make it hard to find the stuff we ARE looking for. Obviously, for smaller games like this one, with small (if any) modding scenes, it's a much less noticeable issue.

But that's just me going off on a tangent, really.

[Underprivileged White Male]

Lymmea eredeti hozzászólása:

krugg.the.gamer eredeti hozzászólása:

But also keep in mind that the nude mods for pervs are also the realism mods for people who want realism. Wording is everything.

I mean, to be fair, there are some VERY blatant examples of nude mods - in almost any game that has women in it - that have zero percent to do with realism, and are very obvious about this. Whether or not a nude mod adds realism honestly comes down to what kind of game it's in. In this game? Yeah, I could very much accept a nude mod adding realism. In Stardew Valley? We're stretching my suspension of disbelief in real life if we're arguing that having all the female characters walking around town naked all the time is supposed to be ~realism~.

For what it's worth, I would say that how people react to nude mods may also be a product of what kind of games they tend to play, and what kind of nude mods they've seen before. People who've almost solely seen nude mods made for blatantly horny purposes might be so accustomed to that being the intent behind nude mods that they have a hard time accepting that in some games there CAN be a genuine argument for realism made for such things.

Or maybe people who've been subjected to far too many nude mods (again, probably most of them openly horny) are just so fed up with them that they can't trust the concept at all anymore. It's not really fair, but I can sympathize. As someone who likes modding games - including Stardew Valley - I cannot tell you how many people are bizarrely dedicated to adding nudity into games where it absolutely does not fit anything. If you're just looking for cool gameplay mods, and you have to sift through pages upon pages of what amounts to people trying to turn a farming sim into a pixelated porno just to find anything remotely thematic or worthwhile...yeah, it gets grating.

Honestly, I don't judge anyone who wants to customize their game experience in any way. If it doesn't affect my game experience? You do you. It'd be nice, though, if perhaps mod sites like Nexus or the Steam Workshop or anywhere that allows racy mods could make separate categories for said racy mods. They can become really prolific in games with female characters and highly active modding scenes(don't talk to me about going through mods for Final Fantasy VII Remake recently), and for those who AREN'T looking for that kind of thing, it can make it hard to find the stuff we ARE looking for. Obviously, for smaller games like this one, with small (if any) modding scenes, it's a much less noticeable issue.

But that's just me going off on a tangent, really.

Funny fact I used to play Morrowind with a nude mod enabled. It actually changed how I played the game. I stopped looting random clothing, or if I did so began disposing of bodies. It's crazy how such a simple thing as nudity suddenly makes you more immersed in the game. The NPCs quickly turned from some pixels to "I don't want to leave a bunch of dead naked people laying around."

Really come down to... do you really want that 5 gold for that pair of pants off that bandit guy? There is something about humanizing video game characters that just adds a level of grounding to a game. Frankly I wish more games would embrace some nudity, as well as generally less "perfect" body types.

Fat guys need to be in more RPGs ya know? One of my favorite D&D characters was one I derived from Chris Farley from Beverly Hills Ninja. Rolled terribly on stats, but it made for a hilariously fun character. Ended up just putting my high stat in Con and everything else ranged from 7 to 12 lol.

[Shadow]

Underprivileged White Male eredeti hozzászólása:

Lymmea eredeti hozzászólása:

I mean, to be fair, there are some VERY blatant examples of nude mods - in almost any game that has women in it - that have zero percent to do with realism, and are very obvious about this. Whether or not a nude mod adds realism honestly comes down to what kind of game it's in. In this game? Yeah, I could very much accept a nude mod adding realism. In Stardew Valley? We're stretching my suspension of disbelief in real life if we're arguing that having all the female characters walking around town naked all the time is supposed to be ~realism~.

For what it's worth, I would say that how people react to nude mods may also be a product of what kind of games they tend to play, and what kind of nude mods they've seen before. People who've almost solely seen nude mods made for blatantly horny purposes might be so accustomed to that being the intent behind nude mods that they have a hard time accepting that in some games there CAN be a genuine argument for realism made for such things.

Or maybe people who've been subjected to far too many nude mods (again, probably most of them openly horny) are just so fed up with them that they can't trust the concept at all anymore. It's not really fair, but I can sympathize. As someone who likes modding games - including Stardew Valley - I cannot tell you how many people are bizarrely dedicated to adding nudity into games where it absolutely does not fit anything. If you're just looking for cool gameplay mods, and you have to sift through pages upon pages of what amounts to people trying to turn a farming sim into a pixelated porno just to find anything remotely thematic or worthwhile...yeah, it gets grating.

Honestly, I don't judge anyone who wants to customize their game experience in any way. If it doesn't affect my game experience? You do you. It'd be nice, though, if perhaps mod sites like Nexus or the Steam Workshop or anywhere that allows racy mods could make separate categories for said racy mods. They can become really prolific in games with female characters and highly active modding scenes(don't talk to me about going through mods for Final Fantasy VII Remake recently), and for those who AREN'T looking for that kind of thing, it can make it hard to find the stuff we ARE looking for. Obviously, for smaller games like this one, with small (if any) modding scenes, it's a much less noticeable issue.

But that's just me going off on a tangent, really.

Funny fact I used to play Morrowind with a nude mod enabled. It actually changed how I played the game. I stopped looting random clothing, or if I did so began disposing of bodies. It's crazy how such a simple thing as nudity suddenly makes you more immersed in the game. The NPCs quickly turned from some pixels to "I don't want to leave a bunch of dead naked people laying around."

Really come down to... do you really want that 5 gold for that pair of pants off that bandit guy? There is something about humanizing video game characters that just adds a level of grounding to a game. Frankly I wish more games would embrace some nudity, as well as generally less "perfect" body types.

Fat guys need to be in more RPGs ya know? One of my favorite D&D characters was one I derived from Chris Farley from Beverly Hills Ninja. Rolled terribly on stats, but it made for a hilariously fun character. Ended up just putting my high stat in Con and everything else ranged from 7 to 12 lol.

Question is whether or not Rebecca would be able to work on "nude" corpses. I imagine it would be very distracting especially if they are male corpses.

[Badiiin]

The devs could put a "The Sims-like nude mode", with a mosaic. That would be enough for me to make it "realistic".

[Lupin III]

Badiiin eredeti hozzászólása:

The devs could put a "The Sims-like nude mode", with a mosaic. That would be enough for me to make it "realistic".

I'd rather have the corpses fully clothed than to have to look at censorship.

[Shadow]

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

Badiiin eredeti hozzászólása:

The devs could put a "The Sims-like nude mode", with a mosaic. That would be enough for me to make it "realistic".

I'd rather have the corpses fully clothed than to have to look at censorship.

There should be an option to turn on naked bodies so for those who want realism can play with it on.

[Lupin III]

KillSwitch eredeti hozzászólása:

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

I'd rather have the corpses fully clothed than to have to look at censorship.

There should be an option to turn on naked bodies so for those who want realism can play with it on.

Of course there should be, but if the choice is between a clothed corpse and a pixelated censorship mosiac, I pick the clothes.

[Underprivileged White Male]

Lupin III eredeti hozzászólása:

KillSwitch eredeti hozzászólása:

There should be an option to turn on naked bodies so for those who want realism can play with it on.

Of course there should be, but if the choice is between a clothed corpse and a pixelated censorship mosiac, I pick the clothes.

Honestly I'd say all three could be options ya know? That said I think I too find pixelation more on the "lewd" side than just nudity. Sort of implying that it's something that needs hidden. Bit on an unneeded sexual connotation.