[Spoiler Question] Will Octagonia Casino be available in/after Post-game act?

[I Am Groot]

Will the Casino 're'-open after proceed to true last act instead of staying in post-game?
Or should I complete all related story sidequest, take the last chance to grind Hero(for being a true Savior in last act), and claim all Octagonia token exchanges?
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Don't mind I don't own this on Steam, I have it on MS Store, playing on Xbox.

[SenMithrarin85]

both casinos are available in act 3. octogonia casino in act 2 only sells novelty items like love potions anyway. I'm not 100% sure if these are still available in the act 3 version of it, but I believe they are.

[I Am Groot]

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:

both casinos are available in act 3. octogonia casino in act 2 only sells novelty items like love potions anyway. I'm not 100% sure if these are still available in the act 3 version of it, but I believe they are.

But in act 3 we travel back in time. So the fall never happens.

[rad_knight]

Originally posted by Cross Scanty:

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:

both casinos are available in act 3. octogonia casino in act 2 only sells novelty items like love potions anyway. I'm not 100% sure if these are still available in the act 3 version of it, but I believe they are.

But in act 3 we travel back in time. So the fall never happens.

correct, it doesn't.
nobody said this game's 3rd act makes sense.

[SenMithrarin85]

Originally posted by rad_knight:

Originally posted by Cross Scanty:

But in act 3 we travel back in time. So the fall never happens.

correct, it doesn't.
nobody said this game's 3rd act makes sense.

makes perfect sense. you change the timeline. Jasper is defeated, so mordigan doesn't steal the sword of light. Ergo, calasmos who is prevented from taking his power back from erdwin's lantern due to a powered up mordigan, is able to do so in the 3rd act timeline because mordigan is defeated before taking possession of the sword of light.

[rad_knight]

Originally posted by SenMithrarin85:

Originally posted by rad_knight:

correct, it doesn't.
nobody said this game's 3rd act makes sense.

makes perfect sense. you change the timeline. Jasper is defeated, so mordigan doesn't steal the sword of light. Ergo, calasmos who is prevented from taking his power back from erdwin's lantern due to a powered up mordigan, is able to do so in the 3rd act timeline because mordigan is defeated before taking possession of the sword of light.

then where'd the casino come from? its still there in act 3

[Z2k1]

Presumably the humans built it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if they would have built it anyway regardless of Booga's intervention. They already have people gambling on gladiator fights, so a casino is a logical next step.

The far bigger plot hole in Act 3 is Michelle. All the more if you were honest.

[I Am Groot]

Originally posted by Z2k1:

Presumably the humans built it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if they would have built it anyway regardless of Booga's intervention. They already have people gambling on gladiator fights, so a casino is a logical next step.

The far bigger plot hole in Act 3 is Michelle. All the more if you were honest.

wait, Michelle+Kai can be done in Act 3 after Time travel ?

[Z2k1]

Originally posted by Cross Scanty:

Originally posted by Z2k1:

Presumably the humans built it themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if they would have built it anyway regardless of Booga's intervention. They already have people gambling on gladiator fights, so a casino is a logical next step.

The far bigger plot hole in Act 3 is Michelle. All the more if you were honest.

wait, Michelle+Kai can be done in Act 3 after Time travel ?

If you didn't lie to her, she should be dead, because the point at which you return to the past is after she dies it. But she is alive in Act 3 regardless, and is waiting for Kai.

[Gaunter O'Dimm]

Originally posted by Z2k1:

The far bigger plot hole in Act 3 is Michelle. All the more if you were honest.

When I recently replayed this game I was confused by that too.

Originally posted by Gaunter O'Dimm:

How come she's back in act 3 if she suicides in act 1? Eleven goes back to one day before the world tree fell but the Michelle stuff happened before that. Doesn't that also imply that lying to her is the canon choice?
Just something I was wondering about.

I guess the writers just messed up on that one.

[I Am Groot]

Originally posted by Gaunter O'Dimm:

Originally posted by Z2k1:

The far bigger plot hole in Act 3 is Michelle. All the more if you were honest.

When I recently replayed this game I was confused by that too.

Originally posted by Gaunter O'Dimm:

How come she's back in act 3 if she suicides in act 1? Eleven goes back to one day before the world tree fell but the Michelle stuff happened before that. Doesn't that also imply that lying to her is the canon choice?
Just something I was wondering about.

I guess the writers just messed up on that one.

Wait, so if we tell her the truth, we have already done her questline on the truth route as in act 1. Then in act 3, we (now have already missed some cutscreen in lying route) can complete the rest of her post-game lying route questline?
That is the big but somehow convenient plothole, still confusing though.
Anyway, I spent time talking to NPCs at Oct after finding out the Casino is there midway through act3, people complains the Mayor decision turning the MMA into Casino.
Also there is a lot of other minor plotholes, like Hotto Miko, LGBT parade, Mia and some characters not being used by Dark One(while some others are just like act 2).

[Z2k1]

Originally posted by Scanty Cross:

Originally posted by Gaunter O'Dimm:

When I recently replayed this game I was confused by that too.



I guess the writers just messed up on that one.

Wait, so if we tell her the truth, we have already done her questline on the truth route as in act 1. Then in act 3, we (now have already missed some cutscreen in lying route) can complete the rest of her post-game lying route questline?
That is the big but somehow convenient plothole, still confusing though.
Anyway, I spent time talking to NPCs at Oct after finding out the Casino is there midway through act3, people complains the Mayor decision turning the MMA into Casino.
Also there is a lot of other minor plotholes, like Hotto Miko, LGBT parade, Mia and some characters not being used by Dark One(while some others are just like act 2).

Act 3 seemingly doesn't acknowledge Michelle's story arc in Act 1 at all. It's as though you never met either her or Kai. The other plot holes you mentioned can be rather easily explained by you getting to all those people early enough before either Mordegon did, or before they could put their plots in Act 2 into action.

[I Am Groot]

Originally posted by Z2k1:

Originally posted by Scanty Cross:

Wait, so if we tell her the truth, we have already done her questline on the truth route as in act 1. Then in act 3, we (now have already missed some cutscreen in lying route) can complete the rest of her post-game lying route questline?
That is the big but somehow convenient plothole, still confusing though.
Anyway, I spent time talking to NPCs at Oct after finding out the Casino is there midway through act3, people complains the Mayor decision turning the MMA into Casino.
Also there is a lot of other minor plotholes, like Hotto Miko, LGBT parade, Mia and some characters not being used by Dark One(while some others are just like act 2).

Act 3 seemingly doesn't acknowledge Michelle's story arc in Act 1 at all. It's as though you never met either her or Kai. The other plot holes you mentioned can be rather easily explained by you getting to all those people early enough before either Mordegon did, or before they could put their plots in Act 2 into action.

The other plotholes I mentioned are caused by Mordegon in act 2 but not caused by anyone in act 3 while the rest of manipulated people in act 2 are manipulated by Dark One in act 3.

Hotto Miko: we miss the whole arc in act 3. We only see the outcome of the arc. In act 2, the arc is resulted by the manipulation of Mordegon. So, assuming the Dark One manipulates the monsters, who is the hero in this arc?
The Pride Parade: As the result of monster manipulation, most of them takes a liking into dancing, but turn out they are into pride parade and suddenly take Sylv as their leader, and the carrier, the suit of Sylv comes out of nowhere.
Mia: she is manipulated by Mordegon in act 2. But she is not manipulated by Dark One in act 3.
Not showing but Jasper spirit travels time with us: Hendrik arc in act 3, the vision of act 2 appears in act 3 and Hendrik wonders where is that coming from(the spirit should have give it to the branch). Hero seems to be surprised by that(and us too). The passage of time applies to the Yggdrasil too, so how can it retain the vision if Jasper doesn't travel tome? If not, so Jasper spirit unknowingly to us, follows us on the flow of time just like Dark One but the game doesn't show that. Jasper in the past shouldn't have the memories of the future, then where is the current spirit of Jasper.