Does Sylv's scene Make Anyone Feel Weird?

[deathgirlkira]

Am I the only on here who is weirded out by Slyv's scene's. What what where they thinking when they made that character. I think he is a tyad but gay not that I am judging or anything.

[Koby]

He's one of my favorite characters. I'm a straight male, but not weirded out in any way by him. I think if he weirds you out, that says something about you, not him to be honest.

[minnchops]

For what its worth I'm gay and have an eye for bad tropes but I think Sylvando is great. He's over the top but in a good way, it's just who he is. This is one of the reasons why DQ11 is so good - all the characters are super well rounded and written.

[MorbusGon]

Not the only one but one of some. No offense but Koby might be right. Each of us was brought up differently in a different environment with different experiences.

[Grodubid]

Of course he does.

[Illusion of Progress]

It's never officially specified in-game whether Sylvando is canonically gay, and I think it's done this way mostly because it doesn't matter. If he is, it doesn't matter. If he isn't, it doesn't matter. It also leaves it up to player choice to tell themselves "he's not" if they really dislike the idea, but they pretty present him as though he is. Although, you COULD have that personality as a guy and physically be into women. It's not plainly stated or hinted much besides general personality trope aspects as far as I'm aware.

He's pretty flamboyant, and earlier on when he was introduced, I got the impression he could be a weak supporting type character, more there for comic relief (think Quina from Final Fantasy IX), but wow was I wrong. Not only was I wrong but I was SO wrong; he's one of the stronger characters IMO (and this is hard to say since honestly ALL of the characters are just really REALLY good down to the last one, as the characters are one of the game's strong points). He did add some comic relief but that wasn't his sole role. He added a LOT of spirit and support for the rest of the cast and it was a nice surprise.

The other character I sort of though this was about was Veronica. I though she'd be the typical annoying and assertive little child and again while she DID cover some of those personality check boxes, there was SO much more the the characters in this game.

Did Sylvando make me feel weird? No, because the game was fun and the character was fine. Did I notice he was a bit eccentric? Yes. Was it a problem? No.

[BIӨMΣCHΛПӨID69]

It's honestly nice to see some non-heteronormative representation in video games that doesn't feel shoehorned in.

If someone is "weirded out" by Sylvando's character, they are a tad homophobic at the very least. Don't really care if all the bigot incels wanna come out of the woodwork and argue with me on this, I probably just won't respond :). If you think all homosexuality needs to be confined behind closed doors, then yes you're homophobic.

[OurShipOfTheImagination]

Originally posted by deathgirlkira:

Am I the only on here who is weirded out by Slyv's scene's. What what where they thinking when they made that character. I think he is a tyad but gay not that I am judging or anything.

I think Slyvando is great. He isn't tropey or a caricature. Remember when he helped everyone with his boat? The part right before that he suggests running along the roof to avoid the guards. That one bit of mundane (more or less) dialogue from what COULD BE a caricature of an actual human being delivered in such a matter of fact way was spot on and exactly the type of manner that characters outside the norm, so to speak, should be presented. He put forth a plan that anyone could have put forth which just shows he is part of the group and he did it very naturally. Slyvando is funny, strong, capable, and totally down for his friends. I love him and everyone else in the cast so far. I am playing this alongside DQIV on my phone and just having so much fun right now. I got Dragon Warrior for free waaaaay back when Nintendo was giving it away with new subscriptions of their magazine and it has just been a marvelous joy going back through these games I've only visited occasionally in my gaming career. Such good hearted, honest games these are.

[Yhwach]

Sylvando is a treasure

[BIӨMΣCHΛПӨID69]

Originally posted by Yhwach:

Sylvando is a treasure

[Murray Newton Rothbard]

It is an awful character. The worst thing the game has, as far as I've played it (almost finished 2nd part). It is a pain to have him in the main party. It really cuts out the dramatic components of the game with his ridiculous behaviors. It could have been interesting if he grew up after meeting his father again and stop being an idiot. But not, it is just a histrionic tard. The game would be a 9.5/10 without Sylvando. It is just a 8 because he ruins the experience so much. It would not be a problem in a Baldur's Gate like game where you could refuse to bring him in your party. But having such a ridiculous mandatory companion sucks so hard...

[ShockedHearts]

as a gay person, I do understand when queer characters are created using stereotypes or not. and while Sylvando does fulfill stereotypes, He doesnt actually validate them. he doesnt choose to be the way he is. rather he just IS who he is which is a weird quirky character. and while he can be cringey he can also be very funny, sassy, and interesting. and thats how you make someone like him well written. you dont throw the wueer ideas into the face of the player or audience. instead you give him personality and define his actions through backstory and passions. He is a Jester. :) and shows that being manly or a knight isnt just about looking strong masculine, or brave. instead its about self respect love and honesty.

he is a rare example of a feminine male character. using the stereotyped whips which are usually feminine weapons. knives and swords which are usually masculine weapons.

overall I can see why people cringe from him. but at the same time I think he expresse the better side of weird people and express their perspective realistically.

[Crudenshall]

He iz FABULOUS...darling, but don't fret. He will have many more moments of greatness as you progress deeper and deeper into this easily 150+ hour story.

[roark5t6]

Originally posted by Murray Newton Rothbard:

It is an awful character. The worst thing the game has, as far as I've played it (almost finished 2nd part). It is a pain to have him in the main party. It really cuts out the dramatic components of the game with his ridiculous behaviors. It could have been interesting if he grew up after meeting his father again and stop being an idiot. But not, it is just a histrionic tard. The game would be a 9.5/10 without Sylvando. It is just a 8 because he ruins the experience so much. It would not be a problem in a Baldur's Gate like game where you could refuse to bring him in your party. But having such a ridiculous mandatory companion sucks so hard...

Sounds like you just don't enjoy being around colorful people. You need to loosen up and laugh more.

[Yossiri]

If you are familiar with Japanese cartoon, you will see that in most of their cartoon there must be at least one gay-looking character. And in this game, it is Sylv. It is strange that Japan society does not open for gay but in their game since 1980, they put gay character in it.

[Hasboob]

He's literally the best character in the game. YOU MONSTER