Corruption of Champions II
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Corruption of Champions II

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Roody Jan 5, 2023 @ 11:51am
I wish Berwyn could be a perm companion
I just met this cute femboy half-lupine and I went to look him up on the wiki just to see if his name was one of the companions you can have. I am so disheartened to see he isnt. Does anyone know if there is a way to make Berwyn stay in the party somehow? I'd love to have this very cute and unique character alone with me.
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GiantPixie Jan 5, 2023 @ 1:00pm 
He used to be but it was changed a few updates ago when his quest was expanded.

You can still interract with him once it's finished but he's no longer a companion.
Roody Jan 5, 2023 @ 4:51pm 
Originally posted by GiantPixie:
He used to be but it was changed a few updates ago when his quest was expanded.

You can still interract with him once it's finished but he's no longer a companion.
awe that suuuucks. I love the lil femboy. Glad I can still interract with him after tho.
Roody Jan 6, 2023 @ 6:19pm 
Originally posted by Pete the Grouch:
He used to be one of the earliest - &, imho, one of the best - companions available; however, due to a bunch of internal 'drama' amongst the writers, he ended up being axed... now, he's just another boringass NPC, & will likely remain so.

I agree, it sucks, seeing as he was a firm favourite of mine... still, it's pretty much what I've come to expect from the game's chief writers at this point... go figure! :steambored:
seems I got this game at a bad time, whats the situation going on? I used to play the old CoC a long time ago and enjoyed it.
HMG Jan 6, 2023 @ 11:42pm 
Going to try keeping this a neutral as possible, but this is a very wordy and touchy subject.

Hugs had/has a history of mental health issues, mainly anger from what I can find. He also had a history of taking unannounced mental health breaks, which lead to long stretches where he wouldn't submit content. That would have been relatively fine if he was just writing a bunch of standalone stuff. But a pain in the ass for someone that was writing a companion, since not only did Berry require content to keep up with the main questline, but also the other questlines and companions.

According to most of the dev team, before one of his actually announced hiatuses, Hugs actually agreed to hand his work off to another writer. Said writer wanted to make some minor changes for their version of Berwyn's continued content (make Berry's ♥♥♥♥ slightly smaller, focus on controlling his libido) without going against Hugs' vision of everything, but Hugs was making check-ins to see if the writing was going how he wanted it to. Eventually, Hugs did return, ♥♥♥♥ happened, and Hugs got banned. What exactly happened at that point, only the devs and Hugs really know.

To those "on the outside" of it all, why he got banned is a complete "I said, they said" thing at this point. Hugs claims that he begged to return to the project, was banned out of sheer malice against him, was "abused" for free content, and that said content was stolen. Savin claims it was because when Hugs showed back up, he was being completely toxic and was thus barred from the project. There's also rumors that Hugs also tried begging to be made a proper paid writer instead of an unpaid community writer. I don't know if it's true or not.

His content being stolen, for both this game and TiTS, can be refuted because both products have clauses in the submission guidelines that say:
One, all control of the submitted content is surrendered to the project leader, so if the original writer either vanishes, willingly leaves, or gets banned, then the content can be changed without the original writer's approval.
Two, the project leader gets all rights to use the submitter's character and writing in their games.
Three, gives them the right to modify the submitted content in the future for potential expansions and arcs.
And four, the original writer is still the owner of their submitted content for use outside of the game, unless it was a commissioned work.

Those clauses in particular were a reaction to the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ regarding Breeding Season, which ended up becoming Cloud Meadow. I would say it's also part of the reason why all of Hugs' content is still in both CoC2 and TiTS, instead of being completely ripped out and maybe ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up no telling how much coding in either project.
Last edited by HMG; Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:51am
RustyDuckling33 Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:18am 
This is a can of worms that does NOT need to be reopened.
HMG Jan 7, 2023 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by RustyDuckling33:
This is a can of worms that does NOT need to be reopened.
Believe me, I completely agree. Won't exactly stop some people from trying restart the uproar, unfortunately.
Skandranon Jan 7, 2023 @ 11:55am 
Originally posted by Pete the Grouch:
Again, though, putting all the tinfoil hat theories to one side, the fact remains that there was truly ZERO viable reason to remove Berry as a usable companion... even if his content was never gonna receive any future updates, having him remain as a party member would've cost the devs precisely *nothing* - 'drama' aside, it's just a nonsensical decision that reeks of nothing more than petty vindictiveness.

That's absolutely not a fact.

There would have been a companion with no new abilities for the last 5 levels, no dialogue, no interactions and no quests for the rest of the game. You don't think that would have stuck out a bit?

Theres definitely a valid reason to have a complete NPC vs a broken unfinished companion dangling forever.

Not to mention he was already probably the weakest companion, he would have become more and more unusable as time went on and he didn't get any combat updates either.

Unfinished content gets cut from games allll the time. Especially from RPGs. We just got to see it live.
Skandranon Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by Pete the Grouch:
Originally posted by Skandranon:

That's absolutely not a fact.

There would have been a companion with no new abilities for the last 5 levels, no dialogue, no interactions and no quests for the rest of the game. You don't think that would have stuck out a bit?

Theres definitely a valid reason to have a complete NPC vs a broken unfinished companion dangling forever.

Not to mention he was already probably the weakest companion, he would have become more and more unusable as time went on and he didn't get any combat updates either.

Unfinished content gets cut from games allll the time. Especially from RPGs. We just got to see it live.

...riiiiight - so, just to clarify-

They can program in the option to turn him into yet ANOTHER big-boobed bimbo (cos, goodness knows, it's not like the game has enough of them already or anything!); yet, somehow, it's apparently beyond their capabilities to code in, I dunno, a new companion set for him or something... maybe add some new summons to his repertoire? Anything..?!?

Uh, yeaaah... sorry - not buyin' it! :steamfacepalm:

Yeah, a one-and-done addition is a very obviously different proposition than continuing for the life of the game, which is probably going to be 3 or four more years.

We're not talking about "a new companion set" we're talking about updating his combat abilities every time they add a new level to the game - at minimum, three more times.

And that's secondary to the point that just leaving a companion with no content for the back 2/3 of the game - nothing since literally Winter City two years ago - would be a terrible idea.
Last edited by Skandranon; Jan 7, 2023 @ 1:13pm
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