Wolves on Lintukoto in their primary habitat and their fitness potential

[Florian Meyer]

On my map on Lintukoto, the wolves in the southeast in their primary habitat have a fixed fitness potential of 80%. Is this just me, is it intentional, or a bug? For herd management purposes, these herds can be left aside just like the herds in the secondary habitats.
Why have so many herds on the map that are ultimately completely useless unless you can push their fitness level into the 5-star range?

[6Taylor4]

For comparison, I looked at the wolf areas I've discovered, and I agree, I have 7 80% in the SE. On the rest of the map I've uncovered 3- 100%, 3- 90%.

[Alf Tupper]

A thought, but ready to be corrected.

I don't think the max and min values are fixed, I think they are dynamic.

My evidence - on the same reserve I have some animals in Private reserves who I think start the game at 50-100% but apparently are changed by my actions

Lynx: 67 - 100%
Mouflon: 50 - 97%
Wolf: 60 - 99%


Doing some research, I could be wrong here.

[Florian Meyer]

Originally posted by Alf Tupper:

A thought, but ready to be corrected.

I don't think the max and min values are fixed, I think they are dynamic.

My evidence - on the same reserve I have some animals in Private reserves who I think start the game at 50-100% but apparently are changed by my actions

Lynx: 67 - 100%
Mouflon: 50 - 97%
Wolf: 60 - 99%
Fallow: 60 - 100%

Doing some research, I could be wrong here.

I also have wolf herds on Linkutoto that go up to 100%, but only two of them are in the primary habitat, and the rest are in the private territory, where fitness is always high anyway. As far as I understand the fitness bar chart, the filled squares show the percentages that can still be reached, or the lower limit for a possible reduction in fitness. The empty squares represent the limit that cannot be exceeded. And only on Linkutoto are the wolves blocked at 80% in their primary habitat in the southeast, at least for me, and that somehow doesn't make sense. In other maps, the wolves sometimes reach 90% in their secondary habitats.

[Alf Tupper]

Ok, just went to a saved game where I've never hunted Linkutoto

Fallow is the same in both saves, but the other three differ in min or max % fitness, but by less than 5% in each case. If the max or min fitness can change then it's dynamic?

I can understand different maps having differing min/max fitnesses (whether this is justified is another matter!) EDIT - but on the same map? Unusual to say the least, indeed was this intentional or not?

My feeling is that the bars can 'move' ie get unfilled or filled if the fitness level moves to the next 5% band. I didn't screenshot this, but had a 100% Red Fox population on a private reserve. New year - fitness shows -8% and I am sure it dropped one bar on the graph. So so far - no good proof, sorry.

Maybe Lanani or someone else can pick this up, as I agree with your initial point - what is the point of lower fitness primary areas if you can't get them into higher fitness levels, and what should we expect to see on the bar chart?

[6Taylor4]

Originally posted by Alf Tupper:

Ok, just went to a saved game where I've never hunted Linkutoto

Fallow is the same in both saves, but the other three differ in min or max % fitness, but by less than 5% in each case. If the max or min fitness can change then it's dynamic?

I can understand different maps having differing min/max fitnesses (whether this is justified is another matter!)

My feeling is that the bars can 'move' ie get unfilled or filled if the fitness level moves to the next 5% band. I didn't screenshot this, but had a 100% Red Fox population on a private reserve. New year - fitness shows -8% and I am sure it dropped one bar on the graph. So so far - no good proof, sorry.

Maybe Lanani or someone else can pick this up, as I agree with your initial point - what is the point of lower fitness primary areas if you can't get them into higher fitness levels, and what should we expect to see on the bar chart?

Well, you are looking at a range low-high, perhaps some smaller changes don't get reflected in the spread until they are significant? Just guessing here, I don't know the formula, nor the minimum amount a rate can be changed by, which would effect the chart for fitness. Interesting for sure, and I must say again, the icons for this are awesome.

[Alf Tupper]

It's 5% a bar, 51-55 56-60, 61-65 as far as I can see.

I made an addition above after you quoted me - I am not sure what justification there is for having differing fitness range herds/packs in primary areas on the same map.

EDIT - in 'highlands and grasslands' my packs are all 50-90% three ribbons, in 'highlands' are 40-80%, two ribbons. Neither areas have been hunted. Only the private 'highlands and grasslands' shows 60-100%

[6Taylor4]

I sense a spreadsheet in the air...

[Alf Tupper]

I've also realised I have missed something Florian said - the filled in bars on the graph. I didn't understand this bit until now, really sorry guys.

If they are not solid green or red or grey, they just have an outline, and can never be filled. They are indeed fixed. So those 90% wolf packs can never be made to go past 90% as you said. My apologies!

A lot of what I've written above is now wrong or irrelevant, I'll not delete it as it's been quoted by you guys.

The OP stands correct - why are primary packs limited to max 90% in some areas and 80% in other? And as far as I can tell, only on this map?

[6Taylor4]

it's maybe like a large city, say, London, and there's an Upper London, a Middle London, and a Lower London?

[6Taylor4]

Here's an incomplete survey of Africa:
Animal Spread (20 - 100%)
Warthog 10-40, 50-100, 10-100
Buffalo 20-74
Kudu 20-79, 10-100, 50-100
Badger 30-100
Lion 30-96
Goose 13-100 [fowl in general]

Did I check every Icon - No. I stopped when 4 or more had duplicate ranges.
Yes, the better ranges were mostly in the Northern half; but with a lot of variety.
I wonder about Deer across the maps?

[6Taylor4]

I learned a lot from looking. The icons show one of three things under the spread: +1, Stable, -1, that are colored Green, White, Cyan.
Also in Aurora, I saw 30 - 98 %, so not in 5's. And also some spreads with non-5 increments. There's a lot of information packed into those icons.