Hey Folks! Do You recommend this game over The Hunter: COTW

[Jack Greedy]

Hey! I have both titles but barely played this one, i forgot about it for a good year:)
How is game now? DO you recommend it over The Hunter : COTW? Is it better?

[Chaser82]

Call of the Grind vs Way of the Herd Manager topic #98. As a hunting game they both equally suck, as a shooting gallery this one is better. Better graphics, more satisfying gunplay and animal rendering distance up to 1 km.

[Jack Greedy]

Oh that nice. Why do You think they sucks as hunting games? I remember playing lot of Deer Hunter 2005 and it was much smaller scope game than this.

[Chaser82]

Publicado originalmente por Jack Greedy:

Oh that nice. Why do You think they sucks as hunting games?

Because there's nothing exciting about how you hunt in both, for me. Others may like it, I don't know. But for me personally the gameplay loop its too simplified and boring, animal behavior is very predictable and dumb. They always come to calls like zombies, they always drink at the same time etc. Come to drinking zone at X o'clock, there will be a herd, shoot whatever you want, teleport near the next zone, repeat. Or you can walk around the map and do the same, pretending you're a real hunter. Anyway, soon you will get your 5-star or diamond, guaranteed. And they all look the same. Mount it in the lodge, go and post on the forum the screenshot of the same 5-star deer that 100 people already posted before you. There's no realistic random antler generator, no non-typical racks. Here and in cotw, they all look the same, a few fixed variants per species.

[macadamstreet]

to me i prefer this one for multiples reasons. But the main ones are :

- it's a tons less grindy than CoTW (CoTW is way too much grind and everything cost way too much, i mean.. a rifle cost 90K.. killing a buffalo will grant you 1200 at best and taxiderm it will cost you around 30-35K. WoTH also have a grind part, but it's less important (taxiderm a buffalo is 8K or so, but buffalo grant barely 1K, wich is still better.
- in addition to grind, you dont have to pay for sleeping (that's dumb in CoTW to pay for sleeping in a tent that you bought already), additionaly ammos is free etc...
- animal variety is better in WoTH, i mean that contrary of CoTW, you feel like it's more variable. CoTW is too much on big animals and not enougth small ones. That's why they even created entiure map specially for small animals and birds.. LOL.

But the biggest point to me is the realism of environement and pleasure to play in it.
CoTW have too much high grass and bushes, everywhere, you can't see anything all the time, even in africa. WoTH is more clear and allow better sight and all. It's more confortable (and less RAM eating for the PC)

I also like the fact the bullet have real effect on animals, the expansion of cavity can touch organs and kill animal, and the artery is taken in consideration. Meaning that you can kill an animal from a headshoit even if you dont touch the brain, as the cavity created by the bullet can damage the brain. CoTW have too much animals taking headshot and running away like nothing happen to them because you missed the brain from a centimeter.

just as bonus, i also like the fact the animal stop to breath and relax after a shot. i got multiples times surprised by animals i though dead but stand up and run away when i get close XD

[macadamstreet]

Publicado originalmente por abc123:

Publicado originalmente por Jack Greedy:

Oh that nice. Why do You think they sucks as hunting games?

Because there's nothing exciting about how you hunt in both, for me. Others may like it, I don't know. But for me personally the gameplay loop its too simplified and boring, animal behavior is very predictable and dumb. They always come to calls like zombies, they always drink at the same time etc. Come to drinking zone at X o'clock, there will be a herd, shoot whatever you want, teleport near the next zone, repeat. Or you can walk around the map and do the same, pretending you're a real hunter. Anyway, soon you will get your 5-star or diamond, guaranteed. And they all look the same. Mount it in the lodge, go and post on the forum the screenshot of the same 5-star deer that 100 people already posted before you. There's no realistic random antler generator, no non-typical racks. Here and in cotw, they all look the same, a few fixed variants per species.

that antler system in CoTW didnt work as good as expected. i got a few fun antlers, but it's usually less or more spike and size difference.
some unique animals have crazy rack, but the devs pushed them to be super-animals, their senses is way too high.
also CoTW animals have weird reactions.
i never seen a alligator running away from hearing a human walking, that's probably the animal that will run away the least, at the point you can even take risk to try touching them IRL (better not doing it, but there is no way a alligator will run away from a human stepping around).
buffalo that do 400m to attack you and heatseeking constantly with doing 90° break dances move to hit you and wont go away until your dead or you kill it.
rabbits that can destroy ATV if you run over them... LOL
etc..
well, CoTW is all in graphisms. The rest is pretty meh to me.

[Boira]

Absolutely. I think this is a much better game than COTW.

[Jack Greedy]

Wow, Thank You very much for such an excellent reading stuff. Im amazed how this game is so good. I will be buying dlcs next month to support it.

[Chaser82]

Publicado originalmente por macadamstreet:

that antler system in CoTW didnt work as good as expected. i got a few fun antlers, but it's usually less or more spike and size difference.

there's no antler System in any modern hunting game, don't let them fool you. cotw's "truracs" and woth's similar thing is just making a FEW premade antler parts and shuffling them randomly on animals. This is why there were many ridiculously unsymmetrical elk and now warthogs. They can bend these parts a little bit, or attach a spike somewhere, but it doesn't change much. This is a very simple way to provide variety which produces a very weak results. Next gen hunting simulator should have a random generation system that will produce billions of realistic antler variations. AI can be used for this. Every trophy will be unique, and that will be a true hunting game. But cotw/woth devs just give you the same animal models and put labels on them: this one is 3 or 4 stars (aka gold), and this one is 5 (aka diamond). This is exciting for anybody? Not for me.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3026437069

[Boira]

Animals in COTW appear as you move around the map.

In Woth exist on the map. You can find a young animal, wait some days and it will become an adult and later it will become mature. And he will die of old age if you don't kill him. And will born new animals.

[Jack Greedy]

That's nice Boira, and the whole herd managing thing is great.

[Actalo]

The Hunter has a pretty robust modding community.

Vanilla, this game wins hands down. But there's mods for The Hunter that basically allow you to make significant changes to animal population, weapons, render distance, equipment, vehicles, etc.

With the right mods, The Hunter is definitively better.

[Porkvendor]

For me this game is more fun

[kubanskiloewe]

i deleted cotw after a few hours when i got my preordered woth copy.
But i really miss my full educated dog ! especially since some animals are notorious in starting attacking me even from 200m away :-)

[Kossatz]

I have over 3k gameplay hours in COTW and bought every DLC they tossed out. I currently have a little over 600+ hours in WOTH and IMHO, the atmosphere, realism, landscape, animal mechanics/behavior, weapon details, animations, graphics quality are far superior in WOTH. Go for it!

[DYEUZ]

Publicado originalmente por Jack Greedy:

Wow, Thank You very much for such an excellent reading stuff. Im amazed how this game is so good. I will be buying dlcs next month to support it.

Hold your Horses here mate. Restrain your excitement!

Let me resumé this game from my experience to you.
- Herd management is not that good, like you think it is. You'll see when you start understanding it & playing it.

- Animals all behave/react the same. Predators, prey, etc. Also, trophy animals all look alike.

- You might see a 4* animal & work on him weeks, yes weeks, expecting/hoping he grows to 5*, which is pretty much our objective to get. And one day, he died on you & a young one replaced him. So, all these hours for nothing in the end. Think about that!

- Yes, graphics are good and all, but like I said many times, if a company in 2023-2024 can't have a great looking hunting game they are probably in the wrong league.

- Multi playing is buggy & has issues for some players. Not playable even.

- This game like mentioned by abc123 is repetitive & boring really quickly. After you've done all the missions & open your maps, gotten a couple 5*, what else to do really.

This game imho, came out 1 year ago prematurely. It wasn't ready at all. Still today, feels like it's in a testing mode. Each updates brings new issues. Like they do not test anything before releasing these updates & we are the ones, testing it afterwards for them.

Not saying not to buy it or anything. You'll just find out by yourself.
Telling you to hold back your excitement to get less dissapointed when you find out what this game is really all about.

Another thing. If they listen to many people out there with their '' demands '' of what to add to this game, well, I don't give it long life.