Why are there no elephants in the Africa DLC?

[4hy8b8dk70fxk]

Is it because they are so smart and caring? Is it because they're too easy to hunt?

I know that they can be hunted in eight African countries: Cameroon, Tanzania, Zambia, Mozambique, Zimbabwe, Botswana, Namibia and South Africa.

[Mauserich]

The zebra is indeed a very iconic African animal. Certainly, the wildlife of Africa as a whole is iconic but the zebra also has a prominent place.

[kubanskiloewe]

giraffes ;-)

[Heru Ra Ha]

Originally posted by Felip | Czar:

Originally posted by Gospel -l- Ghost:

Did they say why? Doubt I would even hunt the elephants, but I would have respected the devs for doing what others are possibly too afraid of doing. So I think I would have preferred they be in the game for that reason alone

Too afraid? You can't count the ethical/moral part of coding a game for killing an animal that does not flee from a single human?

Easy to hunt, peaceful creatures, unethical, endangered.

Same goes for Giraffes for most items.

Outside getting near one Elephant, pointing a 700 Nitro Express into their heart and clicking... It would be, from the start, an exercise of sadism rather than 'hunting' in this setting.

Truly would be disturbing.

I think you have no idea what you talk about. Literally nothing in your post makes sense especially the "easy to hunt" part where it is clear that you never ever have been on such a hunt irl.

Ofc the obligatory 700 NE talk, when you can kill an elephant perfectly fine with 375 H&H

[CONDOR V]

Originally posted by Heru Ra Ha:

Ofc the obligatory 700 NE talk, when you can kill an elephant perfectly fine with 375 H&H

Dalrymple Maitland Bell (1881 – 1951) is credited with shooting 1011 elephants and the majority were shot with 7 X 57 Mauser rifles.

[Heru Ra Ha]

Originally posted by CONDOR V:

Originally posted by Heru Ra Ha:

Ofc the obligatory 700 NE talk, when you can kill an elephant perfectly fine with 375 H&H

Dalrymple Maitland Bell (1881 – 1951) is credited with shooting 1011 elephants and the majority were shot with 7 X 57 Mauser rifles.

I am not sayin anything against the calibre, just matter of fact it is not needed to kill an elephant. A the gun firing it is expensive and so is each round, how many times you actually going to shoot something with it?

So rather absurd impractical for a hunter because the times of Bell are over and gone.

[Mauserich]

Originally posted by Heru Ra Ha:

Originally posted by Felip | Czar:

Too afraid? You can't count the ethical/moral part of coding a game for killing an animal that does not flee from a single human?

Easy to hunt, peaceful creatures, unethical, endangered.

Same goes for Giraffes for most items.

Outside getting near one Elephant, pointing a 700 Nitro Express into their heart and clicking... It would be, from the start, an exercise of sadism rather than 'hunting' in this setting.

Truly would be disturbing.

I think you have no idea what you talk about. Literally nothing in your post makes sense especially the "easy to hunt" part where it is clear that you never ever have been on such a hunt irl.

Ofc the obligatory 700 NE talk, when you can kill an elephant perfectly fine with 375 H&H

.700 Nitro Express I find a bit excessive. Is there anyone at all who makes cartridges for this as a factory standard?

[_Maximus_]

They're probably afraid of some backlash.

[Mauserich]

Originally posted by _Maximus_:

They're probably afraid of some backlash.

Possibly !!!

[ViniBrNapZ]

That's an interesting question, and I have your answer. That is to make the RIGHT question here, which is: How important it is to save the world's elephants?

The question of how important elephants are depends on the kind of world we want to live in. If we want to live like automatons amidst concrete and plastic jungles, yes, we don't need elephants or any of the millions of species that makes our planet an infinitely interesting place to live in.

But, if we don't want an insipid, bland, sorrowful world we need the elephants and all other brilliant creatures that make our planet earth.

They don't need us. We need them. We need animals to help live like humans and to appreciate the beauty around us. Their survival is a test of the humanity within us. I can't imagine living in a world without such beautiful animals. I can't imagine being silent when a crime is happening in front of my eyes.

If we don't act now, they would be gone forever. Join me in supporting this cause: Take a Stand for African Elephants !

But I do like killing all of the other animals. Specially Giraffes. I definetly believe they should add giraffes, they are extremelly cruel mf's.

[bear1442]

It's a pixel picture on a monitor.. If you have a problem hunting Elephant then don't but give everyone the choice.

[Hairy Mouse]

Originally posted by Gospel_-l-_Ghost:

Originally posted by Snail Rancher:

The devs have stated several times on their Discord that there will not be elephants, so we do know for sure.

Did they say why? Doubt I would even hunt the elephants, but I would have respected the devs for doing what others are possibly too afraid of doing. So I think I would have preferred they be in the game for that reason alone

Afraid of what? They're pixels. There a million games where you can shoot pixel dogs and human beings. Who cares about shooting a pixel elephant? Nobody is gonna go out and poach/shoot an elephant because they saw it on a game. Just like people aren't going out and shooting everyone after playing GTA/CoD. You're telling me that shooting a fake pixel wild animal is more "controversial" than a fake pixel human? That's completely asinine, and LITERALLY makes ZERO sense. I like to play games to do things I couldn't/wouldn't ever do in real life. That literally what games are for, especially sim type games. "Banning" things from games because you can't/shouldnt do it IRL is a slippery slope. These days, its "don't think this", "don't say that", "can't do this", "can't depict that", "that's racist", "this is offensive", "that's too controversial". WTF is wrong with society anymore? The devs afraid that Kotaku would write a scathing article, for all 5 actual people that aren't a view bot or only ironically reading them for the cringe humor? I'm sure they probably would write that article, but the fact is Kotaku is a literal joke with absolutely ZERO integrity. So, who cares?

Not to mention that it's not like it's even illegal or anything to harvest an elephant to begin with, depending on the location.

Maybe they'll be added in the future. I'd imagine they HAVE to add more anyways, since the reserve is apparently only launching with 12, and that number is INCREDIBLY low for the amount of wildlife diversity in Africa. Hopefully they at least have some ambient, non-trophy wildlife. Since, of course, not every animal is literally a target for hunting or has any sort of trophy value. I'd also like to see zebras, giraffes, baboons, hippos, rhinos, and crocodiles, in addition to elephants. Those are literally the most desired animals people would want to take down in a hunting game, besides lions which are already confirmed, and the most important ones seem to be the ones they AREN'T adding? Like, what?...

The devs are the same ones who did those Cabela's hunting games back in the day, and they included those animals, which is exactly the reason people liked them. Why would they not do it again, but in a more modern and realistic sim hunting experience? The inclusion of all those animals would rocket it past COTW in many people's opinions, and give this game a well deserved boost in popularity. More than a boost, actually. WIth those additions, they'd have completely cornered the market in that aspect, with it not only being one of the best and most immersive/realistic hunting games in modern times, but literally the only option for hunting that game.

This big 'ol post isn't just because I'm mad about no elephants. Who cares about the elephants, it's the POINT. Gaming these days, or rather just all media IN GENERAL sucks. All so bland, filtered, censored, and "advertiser friendly". Nobody is willing to do things different or take any risks. It's all just going along with the "approved narrative/thinking", with people so afraid of being cancelled for a fart they ripped in high school, because it sounded like a slur, or signified toxic masculinity, or whatever stupid thing the current/popular narrative is. I just wanna play my games, and watch my shows/movies. Leave all the sociopolitical BS and censorship out of it. If you don't like something, just don't consume or indulge in it like a normal person, and leave it at that.

[DavidArtStudio]

We currently have 3 equipment slots with only 2 binocular choices to go in them. Why not have a camera to go in one of those slots, and have endangered animals that are unshootable but you can take their photo and sell the picture for cash. That way you could introduce elephants, rhinos, etc. with a no hunting policy, but you can still "hunt" them with a camera instead of a gun. And then you could have photo frames in the lodge to "taxidermy" your photoed animals.

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Mauserich:

That would certainly be a highlight among current hunting games. As far as I know, only Hunting unlimited (a long time ago) and Cabela's African Safari have done it. But you can't compare it with today's standards. We don't know for sure yet that there will be no elephants, but I don't expect it.

There can be several reasons why. The most plausible, I think, is that it would be a big challenge to incorporate elephants authentically into a hunting game. And I think it's better than trying something that doesn't turn out well in the end.

Oh come on, it's clearly because the topic of elephant hunting is "controversial" thanks to main stream media and social media.

[Sunshine]

Originally posted by Felip. | Czar:

Originally posted by Gospel -l- Ghost:

Did they say why? Doubt I would even hunt the elephants, but I would have respected the devs for doing what others are possibly too afraid of doing. So I think I would have preferred they be in the game for that reason alone

Too afraid? You can't count the ethical/moral part of coding a game for killing an animal that does not flee from a single human?

Easy to hunt, peaceful creatures, unethical, endangered.

Same goes for Giraffes for most items.

Outside getting near one Elephant, pointing a 700 Nitro Express into their heart and clicking... It would be, from the start, an exercise of sadism rather than 'hunting' in this setting.

Truly would be disturbing.

You have no idea what you're talking about...

[Emperor Fooble]

Originally posted by DavidArtStudio:

We currently have 3 equipment slots with only 2 binocular choices to go in them. Why not have a camera to go in one of those slots, and have endangered animals that are unshootable but you can take their photo and sell the picture for cash. That way you could introduce elephants, rhinos, etc. with a no hunting policy, but you can still "hunt" them with a camera instead of a gun. And then you could have photo frames in the lodge to "taxidermy" your photoed animals.

Great idea!