Is this game still full of bugs?

[Kancelas]

I'm looking for a hunting game. Unfortunately, steam only has 2 good options, Call of the wild, which i'm told its main problem is too many dlc's, and this game. Initial reviews for this game weren't glowing, but after the updates of the past 4 months, it seems the game is becoming quite good. is this true from the gameplay perspective? or is this game turning into something i don't want to touch with a 10ft pole?

[CONDOR V]

Just my opinion of course but this game is amazing. I have 1800 hours in COWT and I have barely touched it since WOTH was released. The devs are communicative and very serious about their game. Most bugs at launch have been fixed including a couple that we introduced with the Halloween event. But pretty much all fixed now. But I would suggest watching a few content creators on YouTube or Twitch. The game can be tough especially at higher difficulties. Bullet drop and wind drift (MOA) are a thing in this game. Animals spook easily. Requires patience.

[Florian Meyer]

The game was never full of bugs. It has some special bugs, some of which only affect multiplayer. At the moment there is only one bug for me that absolutely needs to be fixed, but it has no effect as long as you don't use the fast travel function. If your hardware is strong enough, you won't find a better game in terms of authentic hunting experience, animals and landscapes. At the moment the game doesn't have the content and possibilities that other games with their years of prominence have, but it has potential. I've been playing it since August and haven't touched the other hunting games since. But it takes patience and time to succeed in the game.

[Kancelas]

Originally posted by Florian Meyer:

The game was never full of bugs. It has some special bugs, some of which only affect multiplayer. At the moment there is only one bug for me that absolutely needs to be fixed, but it has no effect as long as you don't use the fast travel function.

Unfortunately the impression the reviews gave was that it was full of bugs and/or missing basic features.
Regarding big companies it also has became a "rule" that game must be released before having any major bugs fixed and most minor bugs resolved despite being in a unfinished, buggy mess and not having any sort of support for bug reporting or providing feedback besides the steam reviews. I'm glad to see some companies not following that trend. Thank you for answers.

[Rottenflesh142]

Originally posted by Kancelas:

Originally posted by Florian Meyer:

The game was never full of bugs. It has some special bugs, some of which only affect multiplayer. At the moment there is only one bug for me that absolutely needs to be fixed, but it has no effect as long as you don't use the fast travel function.

Unfortunately the impression the reviews gave was that it was full of bugs and/or missing basic features.
Regarding big companies it also has became a "rule" that game must be released before having major bugs fixed and most minor bugs resolved despite being in a unfinished, buggy mess and not having any sort of support for bug reporting or providing feedback besides the steam reviews. I'm glad to see some companies not following that trend. Thank you for answers.

Nothing in the patch notes say if.
!. The fast travel bug is fixed. Which breaks the biggest aspect for the game "herd management".
2. Shotguns w/o sights work or are not working as intended.
3. They didn't add bows to hunt with "most likely want you to pay for them".
4. Animal pathing may still be broke. IE 700 yards away from a need zone.
5. Animal triggers in the game (to get them moving) still comes down to time in game and or player interaction. IMHO that is BS. The animals that spawn in the game should start living and moving at that time.

Yup! Still a buggy mess at this time. And I know I have missed some things. Multi player stuff?

I will say this! It's a better game than. Call of the wild but not by much at this time. Time will tell if it truly stands out.

I see THQ dropping the game far to soon like they have done in the past. Hey it's THQ.......

[Kancelas]

I was hoping the devs would have introduced hunting dogs by now, or at the very least a breed to help retrieve the small game.

[Rottenflesh142]

Originally posted by Kancelas:

I was hoping the devs would have introduced hunting dogs by now, or at the very least a breed to help retrieve the small game.

MP is still broken at this time! And you are hoping for dogs? Not to sound nasty or mean. But you are thinking way outside of the box at this time for this game to come up with working dogs in the game. Hell !!!! they can't even get the pathing right for the animals "too need zones" in the game right at this time as far as we know. Let alone fixing the fast travel bug. Sit back an wait 3 or 4 months or more then ask about dogs, after bows are added to the game.

[Kancelas]

I don't own the game yet, which is why i assumed given everyone's answers that there weren't weapons missing in the game, shotguns, snipers, crossbows, bows (compound or not), and some DIY weapons, would be the cherry on top. Also MP being broken for so long shouldn't disable their ability to continuously update the game.

[kornflakes89]

Originally posted by Kancelas:

Unfortunately the impression the reviews gave was that it was full of bugs and/or missing basic features.
Regarding big companies it also has became a "rule" that game must be released before having any major bugs fixed and most minor bugs resolved despite being in a unfinished, buggy mess and not having any sort of support for bug reporting or providing feedback besides the steam reviews. I'm glad to see some companies not following that trend. Thank you for answers.

That's just people being upset that this game didn't have everything Call of the Wild has.

And there aren't any development studios that follow that trend. There isn't some big conspiracy where developers are using players as free beta testers. That's just something a load of people made up because they don't understand how things work.

The only reason some bugs don't get fixed before a game launches is because the bug finding/fixing team didn't have time to fix it before launch, or they didn't catch the bug before launch. And games nowadays have way more bugs than games from past generations because games are bigger, the more code there is, the more bugs there are going to be.

If development studios actually did do what people say they do and release games without actually doing any bug testing/fixing, things would be a whole hell of a lot worse than they are now. Remember how bad Cyberpunk was at launch? Now imagine it being even worse.

[DC2Dixon]

Since you mentioned COTW I'll give my opinion on both games. I bought COTW around launch and have around 1300 hours in that game. There were many bugs that took them years to fix and I believe some are still present to this day. After around 700 hours I had a corrupt save and needed to start over again. I experienced many corrupt saves after the initial one but I learned to back up my save to avoid starting over again. There are still people who experience crashes causing the issue I mentioned. Can check there forum to see how many pages are in the threads discussing both issues.

The only time they fix bugs or release updates is when they have new paid content to release. They stream every week and bugs that are clear to see in the streams are hardly ever fixed when the content drops for the public. Often I would dread a update as for every 10 bugs that were fixed often 15 new/existing bugs would creep up more. I enjoyed my time playing the game but it had no competition for many years (classic cost far to much money to be in the same category IMO)

The release for WOTH had some issues but on the whole many have been fixed quickly by the devs. Not all bugs in games are a overnight fix but I haven't experienced many issues in my 200 hours so far. There was one update that tanked FPS for everyone in forested areas but I believe it was only a week until a fix was released. I believe that initial update was also where killed animals would vanish but the update fixed both issues.

The only bug that I would call game breaking ATM in WOTH is the fast travel bug. Its a known issue but obviously its taking time to investigate and fix the issue. The easy solution for me is limiting fast travel and resetting time to the next day if I do. Its not perfect but for me at least its a work around of sorts.

I believe shotguns have been bugged for a while now but I never use them to notice.

Both games are fun but since WOTH I haven't played COTW once. Both can be played as a run and gun if you wish but COTW doesn't have the option to make it more serious/realistic like WOTH has with the difficulty options. On easy there fairly similar but raise the difficulty and the animals will spook quite easy unlike COTW.

Content for both games isn't really comparable, COTW has had over 5 years of content released where as WOTH has only had 6 months and the one weapon pack (which is free) Compare both games at release and they had similar content. I'd even go as far to say WOTH had more species of animals on release. We have had a few new species of animals since release so they are slowly putting more into the game.

There are still little issues here and there but the devs do seem to be trying to fix them and make this a better game. Player numbers are very low but hopefully as more content gets released more people will start to play and give WOTH a long future.

[Lanani]

A lot of the negativity at launch came from missing features that were added in the first one or two patches (remappable keybindings, FOV slider, UW support) and bugs like disappearing blood trails that have also been fixed since. Optimization and bug fixing is an on-going process, as it is in most open world games. The most severe bugs currently in the game for everyone are already being investigated by the developers (this is mainly the fast travel bug where herds sometimes fast travel with you, the shotguns not having enough hit energy to gain shotgun perks (they still kill 99% of the time, but don't penetrate deep enough for vitals, which is required for the perks), and multiplayer guests being unable to claim their harvests, although there is a workaround for that last one).

There have also been a bunch of features/content added to the game since launch, including more rifles, two additional animals (three if you count the brown bear--it's a longer story), four rare fur variations (albino whitetail and red deer, melanistic mule and roe deer), a number of new missions/tasks, as well as colorblind options for changing colors of blood, different parts of the hunter sense highlights etc.

Bows, dogs, tree stands, spotting scopes and tents have all been requested quite frequently. For the bows at least, the developers have confirmed on Discord that bows are planned, but are a bit more involved production-wise.

[Poltergeist]

If you're looking for opinions on if you should buy it - here's one from someone who did with well over 100 hours in the game: DON'T.

This isn't just a case of bugs, missing features, etc. The product when considered holistically is a mess.

It's not worth the asking price. I consider this an Early Access product worth no more than $20.00 for the content you get.

Don't reward a studio for releasing an unfinished product.

Unfortunately, Call of the Wild is a MUCH better product *right now* to spend your money on.

Is there a chance this game will improve and become functional, fun and worth purchasing? Yes. Have they made positive changes? Yes.

Does the data over the past 5 months indicate they are going to turn it around? Absolutely not.

[Musodacan]

Bugs aside this is an unfinished game that could bore you in a few weeks. happened to most users.
As for bugs; there is no point in asking others because what happens on other people's PCs/consoles may be totally different from what happens on yours since the game is not optimized/beta version.
In addition, some bugs will never be fixed. The developers' response was: everything works as planned.

[TacticalSandals]

not many bugs. Mostly animals.

[Rottenflesh142]

Originally posted by TacticalSandals:

not many bugs. Mostly animals.

!. Can't do herd management due to the fast travel bug. "HERD MANAGEMENT" is 95 to 99 percent of how and or what this game is based on. With this bug still active in game, herd management is out of the game.
2. Shotguns still not working as intended as far as we know.
3. No true clear picture as to how the animals move in the game.... IE (PATHING) or triggers, outside of ingame time and player interaction with the animals or herds.

Stop making things up " not many bugs?" to make it sound/look good. And give proper feedback to the OP or anyone else that asks the same question. If the animals are the problem then report it. With the way and why they're the problem. At this time the game is so broken and BORING as hell, even with the new update! Most players have moved on. Even the BIG HYPE youtubers for this game from 3 months ago, have moved on at this time. Not one of them have made a new video about the 1.21 patch at this time and have gone out and got an albino.

THQ! Thought they could just add a new hunting game to the genre with having the bare minimum for the "simple people" that hunters are, but it back fired on them. NO BOWS! to start with. Along with a thousand other things "simple hunters" or herd managers think and look at.

1. No Easter eggs to go find.
2. No real or true lore to find in the maps. The game is so shallow on this end it's not funny.
3. RL animals don't run 500 meters or yards away when spooked.

I'm just waiting for the two new maps that are owed to me from THQ. And both new maps need to be great

[Florian Meyer]

Originally posted by Rottenflesh142:

Originally posted by TacticalSandals:

not many bugs. Mostly animals.

!. Can't do herd management due to the fast travel bug. "HERD MANAGEMENT" is 95 to 99 percent of how and or what this game is based on. With this bug still active in game, herd management is out of the game.
2. Shotguns still not working as intended as far as we know.
3. No true clear picture as to how the animals move in the game.... IE (PATHING) or triggers, outside of ingame time and player interaction with the animals or herds.

Stop making things up " not many bugs?" to make it sound/look good. And give proper feedback to the OP or anyone else that asks the same question. If the animals are the problem then report it. With the way and why they're the problem. At this time the game is so broken and BORING as hell, even with the new update! Most players have moved on. Even the BIG HYPE youtubers for this game from 3 months ago, have moved on at this time. Not one of them have made a new video about the 1.21 patch at this time and have gone out and got an albino.

THQ! Thought they could just add a new hunting game to the genre with having the bare minimum for the "simple people" that hunters are, but it back fired on them. NO BOWS! to start with. Along with a thousand other things "simple hunters" or herd managers think and look at.

1. No Easter eggs to go find.
2. No real or true lore to find in the maps. The game is so shallow on this end it's not funny.
3. RL animals don't run 500 meters or yards away when spooked.

I'm just waiting for the two new maps that are owed to me from THQ. And both new maps need to be great

Herd management is possible at any time, despite the ft bug, if you use the jeep and only operate the fast travel over short distances. This bug is a top priority and according to the developers it is being worked on.
Some shotguns have low penetration after the last update, others work fine. I completed the new missions that use a shotgun in a short amount of time.
The animals move in the directions given from the beginning. From need zone to need zone at the appropriate times. This is all described in the encyclopedia. I have no problem finding the animals in the areas based on this knowledge. It was also clearly stated from the beginning that the behavior of the animals is variable and that the animals do not have to show up at the drinking point at 9 a.m. sharp.
The statement that the game is boring is your subjective feeling and has no meaning for the rating of the game. Neither is the game broken, because it meets all the requirements of a hunting game and I and several others play it, that alone is the proof.
The fact that certain video makers who, in contrast to their followers, generate masses of great ones in whatever way, no longer make videos about WOTH shows that WOTH does not offer enough content with its relatively realistic hunt, as long as you do not use any cheats every few days a rare or 5 stars can show.
I don't need easter eggs in an adult hunt game, this is for kids.
Political indoctrination in a certain direction, which is operated with information about geographical conditions or historical events in another hunting game, also has no place in a hunting game.
The animals usually do not flee further than 200 to 300 meters. Just like it is in real life.
Buying a game where you can find out about the content beforehand and then complaining that there is no bow is completely absurd. The game certainly has its flaws and absurdities but is definitely more realistic than any other hunting game.