Which Class has the best story?

[JC]

I only played this game for 18 levels on the Dual Jedi side, and i did it years ago so i don't remember a darn thing about anything other than someone venting an airlock during a mission. (my friend wanted to vent it, i choose not to and he won) so i guess that part was memorable.

Anyway's i'm gonna give the game a go and want some help choosing. Personally i was leaning towards smuggler, just because Han Solo and such. I am open to anything, bounty hunter could be interesting, but seeing there are all sorts of stories i figured i'd ask the community what they thought was best.

[jver1706]

For me it's female inquisitor (love the snarky voice) or sith warrior. Being evil is just too much fun.

[Ironwu]

Sith Warrior and Agent are really good. Many class stories are a complete mess, Smuggler being one of the worst. Sith Warrior and Agent have complete and compelling story lines from start to finish.

Just my feelings on it from having played all 8 class stories. YMMV

[Raynn von Valancius]

JC님이 먼저 게시:

Topek님이 먼저 게시:

Very subjective question.

The republic consular is very political. If you like politics you will enjoy.

DT_RicoRaynn님이 먼저 게시:

Assassin and Consular are unique and if you're into the whole 'mysteries of the force' and politics it can be a good time. Only thing I really dislike from those two is the Consular's voice. The VA is good, just irritates me for some reason. Both of them also fit well into the entire narrative.
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Thanks everyone else for the responses, it kinda sounds like i should play them all! But these two comments peaked my interest, so i have a couple follow up Q's


What exactly is a consular as far as game play goes? Is it sorta like padmea/leia, or is it something else? I like the idea of Political intrigue and mystery.


Two, do all classes have male and female VA?


One last thing, I recall when i played last that the game didn't go from story to story and had a bit of that old MMO grinding. Great for people that want to game for hours, Not so hot for people that just want to see the story. Has this changed, or is there a way to shorten it, or perhaps side quests or something that fills the game with something more than just going and grinding mobs?

Each class has both a male and female VA. So no matter which route you choose, you're covered. Some stand out a bit more. Jennifer Hale (FemShep) does the female Trooper and brings the same fire here that she did in Mass Effect.

Consular is simply the Jedi Inquisitor. You can either go as a Sage or Shadow (although now you can pick whichever combat style you want so if you acutely despise the way that particular class plays, simply choose Jedi Knight/Sentinel combat style).

As was mentioned previously, it's more diplomatic and mysteries of the force driven. The diplomatic side is more prevalent in the Consular path (trying to get everyone in the Republic to play nice together) while the Inquisitor is navigating the weird, dangerous, and egotistically driven Sith politics. Both deal with the 'inner power' trope, learning long forgotten force techniques.

I don't want to say much more in the effort to control spoilers, but the Consular story can be a bit dry. The narrative fits the design of what a consular is and I know some players who absolutely love the story, but it is viewed as one of the weaker ones. Trooper is also viewed this way, but in my opinion, the Trooper story was literally what the Trooper was supposed to be. A SF soldier fighting the war in their unique way and influencing much larger things with their actions.

It all comes down to what you find interesting in the end. The lore building on the Consular's path is incredibly deep, though.

With the changes to the XP rewards, you don't have to grind the side missions at all. If you complete each planet's unique quest line and the class story, you'll more than likely end up a little over leveled as you hit the expansions. But that depends on boost, events, or if you sub.

[JC]

DT_RicoRaynn님이 먼저 게시:

Each class has both a male and female VA. So no matter which route you choose, you're covered. Some stand out a bit more. Jennifer Hale (FemShep) does the female Trooper and brings the same fire here that she did in Mass Effect.

You had me at Jennifer Hale, I tried to play ME1 3 times as male shep and barely made it to 3-4 hours in before i abandoned it. Then i picked Femshep and was locked and loaded. She made the game for me. I did have one Male shep run that was fun with tali romance which had an epic ending, but over all I enjoyed playing JenShep far more.

So Fem trooper it is,

Thanks for playing everyone!

[Raynn von Valancius]

JC님이 먼저 게시:

DT_RicoRaynn님이 먼저 게시:

Each class has both a male and female VA. So no matter which route you choose, you're covered. Some stand out a bit more. Jennifer Hale (FemShep) does the female Trooper and brings the same fire here that she did in Mass Effect.

You had me at Jennifer Hale, I tried to play ME1 3 times as male shep and barely made it to 3-4 hours in before i abandoned it. Then i picked Femshep and was locked and loaded. She made the game for me. I did have one Male shep run that was fun with tali romance which had an epic ending, but over all I enjoyed playing JenShep far more.

So Fem trooper it is,

Thanks for playing everyone!

Have fun. The Trooper story isn't as epic as some of the others, but I feel it fits the theme incredibly well. It also has some of the deepest choices in Act 3. I also think it plays in the most 'morally grey' area of all the stories.

Imperial side is fairly cut and dry. With DS choices mainly being complete psychos and LS being a nice compromise without being to goody goody. Jedi DS choices are kind of the same, but in some cases do dip into the 'murder and mayhem' vibe a bit too deeply for my tastes.

Trooper's story fits well with balancing being a soldier to good and bad officers. It walks a solid line of the character trying to be a good person, while still winning a war (well, depending on you choices). Being a 21 year US Infantry veteran myself, maybe that's why it resonated with me a bit more.

But I can also agree, that it's one of the weaker stories in the base game. Once you get into the expansions and KOTFE it feels really good because you are waging an unconventional war, which is exactly what the Trooper would excel at.

Plus, who doesn't like showing up pansy force users with great tech and battle hardened tactics?

[Homer Morisson]

That’s exactly the major problem of the addons:

The fact that non-force-users are deus-ex-machina'd into being powerful enough to compete with Sith and take down *the* Emperor is the most ridiculous forced BS writing.

Precisely why I will never play though KotFE/KotET with those classes.

[Dr. Atrocious]

Homer Morisson님이 먼저 게시:

That’s exactly the major problem of the addons:

The fact that non-force-users are deus-ex-machina'd into being powerful enough to compete with Sith and take down *the* Emperor is the most ridiculous forced BS writing.

Precisely why I will never play though KotFE/KotET with those classes.

It's not like this is the first time there's been "dormant force powers awakened/reawakened". Considering this is all legends material, I think it's fair game.

[Jockyboy2]

JC님이 먼저 게시:

I only played this game for 18 levels on the Dual Jedi side, and i did it years ago so i don't remember a darn thing about anything other than someone venting an airlock during a mission. (my friend wanted to vent it, i choose not to and he won) so i guess that part was memorable.

Anyway's i'm gonna give the game a go and want some help choosing. Personally i was leaning towards smuggler, just because Han Solo and such. I am open to anything, bounty hunter could be interesting, but seeing there are all sorts of stories i figured i'd ask the community what they thought was best.

[Raynn von Valancius]

Homer Morisson님이 먼저 게시:

That’s exactly the major problem of the addons:

The fact that non-force-users are deus-ex-machina'd into being powerful enough to compete with Sith and take down *the* Emperor is the most ridiculous forced BS writing.

Precisely why I will never play though KotFE/KotET with those classes.

KoTFE/KotET has a lot of problems. Especially in its writing, direction, and constant side lining of the PC to let this turn into the 'Theorn and Lana' show. But just because someone is a force user doesn't meant they're automatically this incredible being.

I hear this stupid argument all the time. Jedi and sith are so super bad ass, there's no way they could die to such and such. But they did. A lot. This isn't Superman we're talking about here, where simply existing makes him invulnerable.

In Legends content (and one of the many reasons Disney's additions blow balls), the force is a tool/skill which needs to be cultivated. It varies from person to person and needs to be trained. The idea that every Jedi is Obi-won and every Sith is Vader is the same thing as expecting every military member to be a Navy Seal. It's stupid. Plus, sitting in a temple and studying how to be mediators and diplomats whie your ego expands because you're 'so enlightened' doesn't translate well when the ♥♥♥♥ hits the fan.

Jedi died by the thousands to really stupid stuff. Battle droids, mandos, the Yuzon Vong, Black Sun (Prince Xizor). And that's what this story is designed to be. Every character class is an exceptional individual.

While it was kind of silly to go the whole 'the Emperor's power is in you' route, they tried to tie it all up by it being a group effort to defeat the guy. Similar to how they handled Revan. Both of those were kind of silly, at least imo, but welcome to modern Star Wars writing. People unfamiliar with the universe Lucas created but defaulting to the 'space wizards are always better' mindset.

There's a really cool scene in the Legacy of the Force series (legends) where Jania goes to the Mandalorians to learn how to kill Jedi (being that she has to take on her now evil twin brother). In a sparing session. an old Mandalorian shows her how they fight. Jania attempts to use the force to try and determine his movements and intentions, but all she hears in her head is one word, 'End'. She is quickly overwhelmed and is pressed so hard that she can't focus or use the force. And all she hears is 'End' repeated over and over in the Mando's head.

Granted, this particular Mando was older and highly experienced in warfare so he shouldn't be considered the average level, but it shows how discipline and training (especially in combat) need to be honed. His skills were so ingrained into him by that time that he didn't need to think about what to do, he simply reacted. The only thing in his head was 'end the fight'. Which meant there was nothing Jania could glean from his mind. This isn't Peter Parker spidey sense. Jedi sense the mind, feelings. and intentions.

Jedi and Sith are powerful, but they're not gods. And unlike Disney's fan fiction versions, they all aren't combat avatars or Generals (most of the council were given that title, but it was also the clone wars, the Emperor's machinations, and Sifo-Dyas' instructions based on the lies he was being shown by Sideous that caused that). Some were detectives, advisors, doctors (Rig Nema being the most well known).

[Jockyboy2]

I last played about 10 years ago, almost done with Smuggler - Gunslinger Cannon the whole storyline is sort of away from the normal routine, go here go there , it has a full decent story to follow and my thanks to those that proposed this char as the best over the years - me happy

[Homer Morisson]

It’s not about other SW franchises or shows, it’s about SWTOR.

In SWTOR, our Inquisitors are members of the Dark Council, i.e. among the 12 most powerful Sith in the Empire.

Our Warrior is the Emperor’s Wrath and stands even above the Council in Power.

That’s the point.

Our Sith aren’t just any old force user, they were the most powerful *there are* in the Old Republic even before they entered the KotFE narrative, and *that* is why it’s so bloody ridiculous that any puny mortal Agent or BH suddenly is capable of performing on the exact same level, including taking down *the* Emperor.


Basically the same level of BS as saying that Han Solo could have taken down Vader.

[Raynn von Valancius]

Homer Morisson님이 먼저 게시:

It’s not about other SW franchises or shows, it’s about SWTOR.

In SWTOR, our Inquisitors are members of the Dark Council, i.e. among the 12 most powerful Sith in the Empire.

Our Warrior is the Emperor’s Wrath and stands even above the Council in Power.

That’s the point.

Our Sith aren’t just any old force user, they were the most powerful *there are* in the Old Republic even before they entered the KotFE narrative, and *that* is why it’s so bloody ridiculous that any puny mortal Agent or BH suddenly is capable of performing on the exact same level, including taking down *the* Emperor.


Basically the same level of BS as saying that Han Solo could have taken down Vader.

The bounty hunter kills the serving Jedi Battlemaster of the time. Not really a scrub.

The smuggler tracks and eliminated the Voidwolf, and Imperial general who was running circles around and beating the pants off the jedi and the republic. Also, not a scrub.

Once again, not every Sith or Jedi out there is amazing. And the PC doesn't defeat the Emperor on their own. It's a combination of things, Valk's two kids, his 'wife', and the portion of power that is stuck in the PC.

Personally, I think the whole Eternal Empire spin was kind of silly in general no matter what class you play it on. A case of them spitting something out that is 'bigger and badder' but not necessarily better.

But then the JK story line could be called the same. It's simply a strung together 'you need to stop this super weapon' cases which is why I think the SW is the superior story line. Which is why, from start to finish, I really feel like the SW is the 'canon' story line for the game.

If I had my choice, my BH would have simply started working for the Eternal Empire. I don't really give a damn about who is in charge as long as I get to do what I do and get paid.

[Homer Morisson]

Good point re BH working for whoever pays best, yes.

Sadly we’ll probably never again see class-specific storylines in SWTOR, which is why I regularly replay the class stories of SW and SI, as they are, to me, still by far the best narrative experience in SWTOR.

[Raynn von Valancius]

Homer Morisson님이 먼저 게시:

Good point re BH working for whoever pays best, yes.

Sadly we’ll probably never again see class-specific storylines in SWTOR, which is why I regularly replay the class stories of SW and SI, as they are, to me, still by far the best narrative experience in SWTOR.

The two sith classes do have the best narrative through the entire run. I totally agree with you on that.

It is a shame we won't get that level of quality again. Hell, I'd probably be happy just being able to replay the class story without re-rolling for a few years (new game plus style). But the nightmare it would be to implement that...yeah I wouldn't want to be the programmer for that debacle.

But EA jumped ship on this one a long time ago. Once new devs start dropping Star Wars games we'll see how it pans out. I think it would have to be another MMORPG to really close the curtains on this one, but we'll see.

[Palad1n]

I played JK story and Imperial Agent. I ended up playing Imperial Agent a few times because of how good the story was.